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Jazz Inmate

In Reply to: RE: If You Are Interested In A Toshiba HD DVD Player posted by Robertc88 on September 28, 2007 at 05:47:12

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I wouldn't be so sure that HD DVD is going to die anytime soon. - oscar 15:12:14 09/28/07 (7)
Best case scenario seems to be Blu-ray software sales continue to dominate and Standalone player sales at least trend towards a Blu-ray advantage giving Warner's a justifiction to go Blu-ray exclusive this January/February which would put a severe dent into HD DVD's hopes. I don't think I'm going to predict this is going to happen.
63:37 software sales advantage for Blu-ray this past week. Expect that ratio to keep climbing in Blu-ray's favor until maybe "Transformers" comes out. I don't have any idea what's going on in the Standalone sales area. Blu-ray actually had a near-term advantage in hardware sales just BEFORE the Paramount decision. It'll be interesting to see how that's changed recently. Or what happens if the $199 Venturer HD DVD players hit the market (I don't know of any major US retailers carrying this product yet).

Edits: 09/28/07
- $100 Gift Card Sure Got My Attention - Robertc88 08:46:13 09/29/07 (0)
  J6P itchy for high def will go for it no doubt, possibly even some looking to go format neutral. Of course there has been chatter on avsforum about it.
  
  I'd sure like to get ahold of a Circuit City sales report after the offer expires to check the number of units they sold.
- Doesn't matter. No one is buying HD DVD standalone players - Jazz Inmate 15:23:27 09/28/07 (5)
  There's a reason Toshiba is having these promotions: sales slump.
  
  Bigtime.
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  - You have sales figures to back that up ? - oscar 15:29:09 09/28/07 (3)
    Sony has also had their own sales promotions. Both sides have been gearing up for the holiday shopping seasons. I'll believe HD DVD prospects are bad when I start seeing hard sales numbers suggesting such.
    - I have access to the same sales figures you do - Jazz Inmate 15:38:05 09/28/07 (2)
      Yeah, they're bad...as opposed to good. I don't see how they could be described as anything but very bad.
      
      Blu-ray standalone player sales are bad too, except for the PS3 which is kicking butt in comparison. We can get into the whole debate of what percentage of PS3s will be used for movies later, but since the PS3 hard drive and games are blu-ray, it seems fair to call it a blu-ray player.
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      http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20070613073017.html (Open in New Window)
      - That one's a few months out of date... - oscar 15:54:52 09/28/07 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I have access to the same sales figures you do posted by Jazz Inmate on September 28, 2007 at 15:38:05
        
        Warner is hinting at picking sides based on comparative hardware sales during this Holiday season. So even if both formats' hardware sales are abysmally bad for the year, they could try to force the issue one way or the other based on who comes out ahead in the numbers game.
        
        the other player is Best Buy, they could simply stop stocking HD DVD and/or Blu ray based on lousy sales figures for the Holiday season. E.g. even if Warner's stays neutral, BB could say they are only stocking one hi-def format (Blu-ray or HD DVD) from Warner's from now on because of this dual inventory BS.
        
        that was the first thing that came up from a google search using "Toshiba HD dvd player sales" - Jazz Inmate 16:37:25 09/28/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: That one's a few months out of date... posted by oscar on September 28, 2007 at 15:54:52
        
        I'm sure there is more recent article. You have access to google, same as I do.
        
        I don't get into all the hypotheticals. Blu-ray is selling better than HD DVD. It's a better format if only by virtue of its higher capacity. Can't deny that.
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  - Probably the same reason BD is having these promotions - Jack G 15:28:20 09/28/07 (0)
    Nobody is buying either players.
    BTW, I was just informed my 5 free BDs won't ship until November 4. I sent the forms in first week of July-I'm underwhelmed.
    J
    
    Edits: 09/28/07

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