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Jazz Inmate

In Reply to: RE: Who is "we," Jazz? posted by racerguy on October 20, 2007 at 08:49:38

I get that you don't like Sony. You need to get over it.
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You're wrong in every way, as usual (nt) - racerguy 12:05:15 10/20/07 (11)
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- you're avoiding facts and trying to be insulting, as usual NT - Jazz Inmate 12:12:34 10/20/07 (10)
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  - Wrong again, Jazz - racerguy 12:30:14 10/20/07 (9)
    In this thread you posted your wrong-headed opinion as "fact," as you usually do. In this thread you started with the insults, by accusing me of "ignoring" your foolish opinion masquerading as a "fact." You even had the arrogance to assume that everyone else agrees with your ridiculous opinions, which further cements your reputation.
    Just in case you hadn't figured it out already, I have no interest in attempting to engage in any sort of meaningful debate with you, because you aren't capable of distinguishing between your opinions and facts, and you seem to have absolutely no ability to reason logically. If you attempt to start an argument with me, you'll generally get nothing but brief, acerbic responses.
    Oh - and since you have an obsessive need to get in the last word no matter what, please be my guest. Rant. Rave. Have a temper tantrum. Whatever it takes to satisfy your urges.
    
    Edits: 10/20/07
    - It's not an opinion that blu-ray has a higher capacity. It's a fact. Learn the difference NT - Jazz Inmate 00:36:03 10/21/07 (8)
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      - It's truly sad that the only way you can support your feeble arguments is by setting up a strawman (nt) - racerguy 11:43:05 10/21/07 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: It's not an opinion that blu-ray has a higher capacity. It's a fact. Learn the difference NT posted by Jazz Inmate on October 21, 2007 at 00:36:03
        
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        My entire argument that blu-ray is the way to go is about capacity...there's no other point to set up - Jazz Inmate 12:15:31 10/21/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: It's truly sad that the only way you can support your feeble arguments is by setting up a strawman (nt) posted by racerguy on October 21, 2007 at 11:43:05
        
        It's really odd how you've missed that.
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      - But that doesn't mean a better picture - Jack G 10:28:00 10/21/07 (5)
        
        In Reply to: RE: It's not an opinion that blu-ray has a higher capacity. It's a fact. Learn the difference NT posted by Jazz Inmate on October 21, 2007 at 00:36:03
        
        Most BDs(56%) are on BD-25s, and most that are on BD-50s don't fill up the disc. The bigger = better only applies to MPEG2, that requires lots of storage space. Both AVC and RC-1 hold the same info in less space(they look better too).
        Jack
        
        So far it's only meant better sound on Blu-ray discs with uncompressed PCM - Jazz Inmate 11:09:56 10/21/07 (4)
        
        In Reply to: RE: But that doesn't mean a better picture posted by Jack G on October 21, 2007 at 10:28:00
        
        How many HD DVDs do you have with lossless PCM?
        
        Remember audio quality? It's a minor feature that inspired this entire website and brought us all here.
        
        And yes, video quality is impacted too. Many BDs have MPEG-4...how many HD-DVDs have that vs MPEG-2?
        
        Face it: capacity is a very critical issue in delivering high definition A/V content. I can't believe we are still having this argument.
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        RE: So far it's only meant better sound on Blu-ray discs with uncompressed PCM - Jack G 12:33:53 10/21/07 (3)
        
        In Reply to: RE: So far it's only meant better sound on Blu-ray discs with uncompressed PCM posted by Jazz Inmate on October 21, 2007 at 11:09:56
        
        > > > How many HD DVDs do you have with lossless PCM? < < <
        None. How many BDs have interactive features.
        
        > > > Remember audio quality? < < <
        Yes, I have an entire floor of my house, seperate from my video, dedicated to it.
        
        > > > It's a minor feature that inspired this entire website and brought us all here. < < <
        Yes, it IS a minor feature in VIDEO.
        
        > > > And yes, video quality is impacted too. Many BDs have MPEG-4...how many HD-DVDs have that vs MPEG-2? < < <
        MPEG4 is AVC. You did know that didn't you?
        BD has 105 AVC Vs 153 MPEG2. HD DVD has 30 AVC Vs. 10 MPEG2.
        Intersting stats eh?
        
        > > > Face it: capacity is a very critical issue in delivering high definition A/V content. I can't believe we are still having this argument. < < <
        That's because you still don't get it.
        You need to get away from Blu-ray.com for a while-it tend to give you a warped view of reality.
        Jack
        
        RE: So far it's only meant better sound on Blu-ray discs with uncompressed PCM - Jazz Inmate 13:59:58 10/21/07 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: So far it's only meant better sound on Blu-ray discs with uncompressed PCM posted by Jack G on October 21, 2007 at 12:33:53
        
        Before you become too enamored with the MPEG codecs on HD DVD, you may want to take a close look at the bitrates. They're not all created equal.
        
        You obviously care about audio quality but downplay its importance in HT.
        
        If you really want an immersive, interactive HD experience, you should get into gaming, but there again PS3 is the way to go. My idea of fun is not interacting with movie features...that's not why I buy hi res movies.
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        ?????? - Jack G 14:17:50 10/21/07 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: So far it's only meant better sound on Blu-ray discs with uncompressed PCM posted by Jazz Inmate on October 21, 2007 at 13:59:58
        
        The vast majority of titles on HD DVD are encoded with VC-1. It doesn't require as much space or as high bitrate as MPEG2. Same with AVC. That's the whole point.
        Jack
        
        Edits: 10/21/07
        
        You do know what bitrate is, right? NT - Jazz Inmate 20:04:05 10/21/07 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: ?????? posted by Jack G on October 21, 2007 at 14:17:50
        
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