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In Reply to: RE: Don't worry, the heat is still on Sony posted by 4season on January 04, 2008 at 20:46:27
As Oscar said, they are going to have to add value either perceived or real, to get people to buy into it. They are also going to have to lower prices dramatically for both hardware and software. And they are also going to have to be alot better and clearer about video profiles. We'll have to see what CES brings next week. Marantz is introducing a new player, but I heard it was basically a rebranded Denon. It won't be cheap.
Lets see how thing go.
Jack
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Audio and video quality are a big part of it, but the overall Blu-Ray experience needs to have a certain "wow" quality: Not much fun to pay $25 for a movie only to find what few bonus features it has are poorly presented, and rather than the little movie-specific booklet, just a generic leaflet extolling the virtues of Blu-Ray. It's like buying a first-class ticket but getting economy-class service. The overall buzz I've gotten to date about Blu-Ray (and HD DVD for that matter) has been positive, but not overwhelmingly so, and it's now up to the Blu-Ray camp to pick up that slack.I'm not sure that the public as a whole wants to know about B-D Profile 1.0 vs 1.1. In fact, I thought Toshiba erred by treating HD DVD too much like a computer product and freely issuing firmware updates every couple of months. Far better that movies remain backwards-compatible with 1.0 players aside maybe for more advanced bonus content, and best to ease into that gently since some folks are still paying for their 1.0 players.
PLAYER prices need to reach a point where more folks are willing to take their chances, but the movies themselves don't need to go head-to-head with heavily discounted DVDs. That will take care of itself as the B-D market grows and economies of scale kick in.
I've this quesy feeling the newer 1.1/2.0/whatever Blu-ray discs may force periodic updates on 1.0 players to allow playback.
The November '07 Fox titles also forced a firmware fix probably related to first use of BD+; I don't know much about how BD+ works but will it force a firmware update every time they change the BD+ protection scheme ? Or has Fox given up on ever making it effective ?
My player has already been discontinued with warranty to expire within a couple of months. I wonder how long LG will continue to provide firmware updates to support evolving blu-ray discs ?
Even though my Sharp BD player was made with the original BD+ programing in it, They did recently have to put out a FW update, or the new (December) Fox discs wouldn't play-they would read then shut off. Next week, Sunshine, a Fox title and the first 1.1 title, will be out. It could be interesting.
Jack
Thanks for the heads up.
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> > > Not much fun to pay $25 for a movie only to find what few bonus features it has are poorly presented, and rather than the little movie-specific booklet, just a generic leaflet extolling the virtues of Blu-Ray. It's like buying a first-class ticket but getting economy-class service. < < <
Tell that to Fox, who's $40 Bds frequently have less features than the corresponding DVD.
But eventually the CE manufacturers will compete with each other for market share (just like with DVD).
I think part of Warner's decision is based on the development in BDA profiles. I imagine a prerequisite for their decision was knowing in advance of BDA player announcements prior to CES. I don't particularly care for PIP/IME/frills but Warner, Disney et al seem to think these are vital selling points.
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