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In Reply to: RE: Beware of AVS Forum... posted by Tom80112 on January 04, 2009 at 20:18:18
I got an infraction hit over there too, for criticizing region locking on Oppo's new Blu-ray player in the main Oppo thread after the complaint thread was unceremoniously closed down. The AVS forum set up a thread just for folks to discuss the issue long before the BDP-83 was officially released, but they only kept it open for about a week (shutting it down long before the player was available so that the criticism would scroll away), then no further discussion of the imposed region locking on standard DVD or BD was allowed on the site.
The reason for this is pretty obvious: just look at the banner on the AVS site (Oppo is a featured advertiser).
Don't get me wrong, I like Oppo players (especially the DV-983H) and personally I can't fault the audio section, but you should have a right to ask questions and set the parameters when asking for advice.
AuPh
Follow Ups:
With all the "sales pitch" type OPPO praise on my thread which was clearly
focused on 3 other very highend products, I TRULY believe that there are
OPPO employees posing as "regular OPPO owners" on AVS-Forum who are
replying to NON-OPPO posts to try and convince people to buy OPPO instead.
I had like 10 different OPPO fans flame me inside of 10 minutes.
That's a real scam if you ask me and totally dishonest.
Audioasylum and Audiogon are full of helpful people who lend advise
with a common goal. (unlike AVS-Forum)
Of course, the fact that you "truly believe" that Oppo employees are responsible for the pro Oppo balance of the Oppo discussion strings doesn't make it so. For example, I "truly believe" that many of the anti-Oppo notes are posted by owners of high-priced components who don't like to hear about Oppo components being substantially as good as theirs in many respects. But the fact that I "truly believe" it doesn't make it so either.
Let me suggest that anyone considering a Blu-ray player, and/or an upconverting DVD player and/or an SACD player read the reviews of the soon-to-be-released BDP-83 which have been posted, and those which will appear in the next few months. - Or are all the reviewers Oppo shills also?
Jim
I have to disagree about Audiogon. If you manage to post one comment or idea that goes against the accepted wisdom in a thread, the mods will not permit you to post again in the same thread.
Maybe this is true.. I haven't run into any issues on the
asylum or audiogon. I post when I need A vs B opinions and
people are always great. On AVS it's "OPPO is the best and
if you don't agree we will flame you to death".
Tom80112, you must have had better luck than me on A'gon! I have had posts censored more than once, when the content of what I wrote clearly disagreed with the nonsense being spouted by the majority opinion. My posts were not rude or insulting, just factual...and contrarian.
Hope you get your DVD player recommends in this thread.
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