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I use an hdmi cable between a Sony blu-ray player and a Pioneer receiver without a problem. The picture and surround sound are great. I have another hdmi cable between the cable company's HD box and a Sony Bravia TV. It works great. I use another hdmi cable from the Pioneer's "hdmi out" up to the Sony TV. All of this works great.
The other day I brought a Samsung universal player from the storage room and hooked it into the system. It is an unlocked unit that I bought in 2005. I have a large stash of Zone 2 movies I accumulated after living overseas for several years. I had used the Samsung player previously using the coaxial connections to hook-up the surround sound. It worked great with that configuration, but it does have an hdmi input and I want to use that so I hooked up a cable between the Samsung and the Pioneer receiver.
At first a message came up that "hdmi audio is not supported" even though the picture looked good. I went into the player's audio setup menu and saw that it was set to "bitstream" so I changed it to "pcm" and immediately got sound. But there is something wrong with the sound. It will play for about 15 or 20 seconds and then the sound drops out for a couple of seconds before coming back up. The cycle repeats endlessly, I guess, because I usually give up trying to get it to work after trying every menu setting. I tried plugging the cable into the TV instead of the receiver, but got the same result.
Is there something I'm missing that would be causing these dropouts, either in the Samsung player or in the hdmi cable?
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I tried switching to my best HDMI cable instead of the old, generic one that came bundled with a piece of equipment I bought somewhere along the line, but alas it made no difference. It is the Samsung universal player that is the problem. Oh well, at least I'll have another back-up SACD player.
I had not thought about the possibility of using an optical cable for the sound and an HDMI cable for the video. Of course I wouldn't have surround but it would at least allow me to watch my Zone 2 movies. I tried experimenting but my optical cable was too short. Do you think that if I purchased a long optical cable that I could mix the HDMI with the optical? One for picture, one for sound? Would that work?
Via optical, all but the lossless surround (DTS-HD Master Audio Dolby TrueHD) and uncompressed surround (5.1/7.1 PCM) formats will be transmitted. In the case of the lossless surround formats, the lossy version will be transmitted via optical.
Lossy? Yeah, but truthfully for movies it hardly makes a difference. Same quality as standard DVD which means it's still pretty good.
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It's an upconverting DVD player, not a Blu-ray or HD-DVD. So, there will be no multichannel lossless sound coming out of it. Just lossy Dolby Digital, DTS, or good old-fashioned PCM stereo.
With a good system, lossless is much better. Especially with the right movie.
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That wasn't my point in the least.
He said he'd lose surround sound via optical and I corrected that misunderstanding: he'd only lose the capability of lossless surround playback (provided his player even supported lossless codec capability), not lossy surround playback.
Never bust anyones' balls for giving you better quality, especially when it comes to the movie studios. Remember that format called DVD? They dicked us with lossy audio crap -- Dolby Digital. Now we're getting lossless 24/48 DTS-HD Master Audio as the de facto audio codec for Blu-ray. Don't bitch about whether or not people can tell the difference.
Let me ask you this question. If you have lossless codec capability in your system, do you switch to the lossy audio track when you watch a Blu-ray movie? After all, "it hardly makes a difference", right?
I was only trying to point out to the OP that he can use the optical cable and still get multi-channel audio. Of course lossless is preferred, but the optical is better than nothing, and as you point out he may not have the ability to use the lossless option anyway. I wasn't critiquing your statement in the least.
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"I was only trying to point out to the OP that he can use the optical cable and still get multi-channel audio."
Didn't I already say that?
"Via optical, all but the lossless surround (DTS-HD Master Audio Dolby TrueHD) and uncompressed surround (5.1/7.1 PCM) formats will be transmitted. In the case of the lossless surround formats, the lossy version will be transmitted via optical."
I had the same problems while trying to set up my in-laws system. Same as you described: the HDMI cables worked fine with the Sony TV and cable box, even with a standard Sony dvd player. I concluded that the signal just wouldn't work with the Samsung unit no matter what I tried so I ended up using the optical out for the sound.
Baba-Booey to you all!
If it was the cable (which I doubt), you could cure it by swapping the cable with another one that you know works. I am certain it is the interaction of the "unlocked" player with HDMI/HDCP.
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