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Hi,
I'm an old stereo hold-out getting involved with multichannel and finding it befuddling.
I want to use a receiver (not bought yet) with TH42PZ80U but I am finding there seems to be AV sync issues with the Prog Out (RCA outs to a stereo pre/amp) and Digital Out (2.0 or 5.1 to a Samsung receiver) watching shows OTA or HDMI in from blu-ray player.
The sound from those outs doesn't sync with the video. The sync being out on teh RCAs is small but it's evident, and using the Digital Out is bad enough to make shows unwatchable. In both cases it's small enough I can't tell if the audio is delayed or advanced - old ears I guess.
As all a receiver could do it delay sound for AV sync, are the audio-outs in advance of the video so they can be sync'ed with a delay setting in a receiver?
What solutions, settings and receivers have other used? Does the receiver have to use EZ-Sync/HDAVI Control, CEC, etc. functions?
HELP!!
TIA
Dave
Follow Ups:
Audio, in almost 100% of the cases where there is a sync problem, is in advance of video (ie, you hear the words before the lips begin to move). The reason is that there is more processing going on with video than with audio, which results a timing issue due to the data disparity involved. The fix is to delay the audio so that it syncs with the video.
What model Samsung receiver are you using? What is your budget for a new receiver, provided that's what you need?
Reading my reply, seems like cheap, smooth voicing, 5.1 would be the main things I'm looking for.
Another thing that occurs to me is...
As I am looking at using the receiver for OTA (optical digital from the TV) and HDMI from my Blu-Ray player... wouldn't these different sources have different audio/video sunc timings? If so then the receiver would need to support that. I haven't heard of anything like that in the manuals I've been reading.
Since there are varying sync timing issues, depending on the source, different delay settings should be available for each source. A universal delay setting would be no better than having no delay capabilities in the first place. Of course, I'm just being logical -- check with the manufacturer to be sure.
I was using a HT-DM550 (yeah, that old!) that doesn't have delay settings for digital inputs. The parasouond pre & amp for the analog out. Both had some sync.
If that sync is the audio being out in front should any AV receiver work for me? Seems logical.
Budgetwise -
I had been looking at Onkyo, Yama, Denon, Pioneer, Sony... nothing upmarket. I see the sky is the limit but most manufacturers range $300 and up, and I figure the bottom of the range models would be fine for me. I don't need on-screen gui, I like the upscaling my screen provides so I don't need that. DNLA, already have that from my blu-ray player, as I'm mainly going to be a 3.1 setup I don't need to pay for 7.1 over the cost of a 5.1.
The one thing I'd appreacite is the ability to take in HDMI multichannel PCM or DSD for my SACDs.
WAF and low cost are always issues, but more than those I couldn't live with an edgy class-D outs. Been there done that.
To sum up, low cost (under $400) and easy on the ears.
Thaks for the help. The multichannel world is a minefield.
Denon AVR-1712
It has audio delay up to 300ms, HDMI sync mode and HDMI Standby pass-thru (allows you to use an HDMI device with the TV via the receiver without turning the receiver on). It fits your budget of $399, gives you plenty of control/convenience and offers numerous options should you want to get more into Home Theater. Don't worry that it's a 7.1 model, as you just tell it that you're only using 3.1 of those channels.
Thanks Joe - That 1712 seems like a great buy, in terms of capabilities and future proofing.
I read the manual and it seems flexible enough for any eventualities.
Though I think the recommended installation of 12" in every side is overkill!
Thanks!
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