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'Wick 4': 169 minutes of mayhem . . .

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Posted on March 24, 2023 at 13:59:55
Billy Wonka
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 Yep, he kills them all.

Not really, but he does run up an awesome score in his attempt to get reinstated to the alliance. Just Bill Skarsgard and his killing machine staff stand in his way. Donny Yen (IP Man) is both friend and foe in this epic battle of survival. Well done with over-the-top production standards.

Well done, John Wick.

 

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Got a nice review in today's WSJ, posted on March 24, 2023 at 19:11:53
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 "Violent and stylish, John Wick: Chapter 4 is the franchise's grandest installment yet." Sounds like it it's worth the nearly 3hrs time investment.

 

Time pretty much flies by. *, posted on March 25, 2023 at 21:30:15
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Whis is best, Wick, Jack Reacher or Equalizer? Nt, posted on March 26, 2023 at 11:53:31
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RE: 'Wick 4': 169 minutes of mayhem . . ., posted on March 26, 2023 at 13:15:32
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 As a MOVIE? Reacher as Tom Cruise is mis-cast......but does draw box-office.
The book 'Reacher' is a large guy......

Never was a fan of The Equalizer.....

Keanu is also good....but the 'franchise' burned itself to the ground with repetitive scripting.....and an unkillable lead.....

Too much is never enough

 

Reacher, posted on March 26, 2023 at 15:37:16
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 None are really my type of movie, but of Reacher and Wick I would pick Reacher. Never seen Equalizer.

 

Sounds like you're over-thinking this, posted on March 27, 2023 at 10:19:25
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 There's nothing high-minded about the entire John Wick franchise. It's low minded high action with an easy to follow plot (although permeated with complex, opaque and incongruous rules and ritual) and very high production values. Eye and ear candy for sure.

 

Wick..., posted on March 27, 2023 at 10:21:52
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 ...is my favorite for movies. The art direction is always stunnng and they are a lot of mindless fun.

I loved the Jack Reacher books and have read them all, seen the two Cruise movies and the TV series. I prefer the books.

The two Equalizer films were ok. I liked Denzel in The Book of Eli better.

I prefer The Atomic Blond with Charlize Theron over a lot of the other generic action flicks.

We could get into which is the best Kung Fu, military, video game or Fast and Furious films, but I'd still pick John Wick.

 

Does Wick kill more than Rambo?, posted on March 28, 2023 at 12:28:56
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 Rambo (2008) racks up a whopping 254 onscreen kills....

Not bad, a 2.8 body count per minute during the film's 91 minutes.

-Rod

 

1000s...(nt), posted on March 28, 2023 at 19:13:35
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My Fav Wick moment was in the 1st one,, posted on March 29, 2023 at 08:43:18
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 when he gave the older Doorman the night off, instead of killing him.

 

If you liked Wick, check out "Nobody" with Bob Odenkirk, posted on March 29, 2023 at 08:56:06
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 Just the right blend of humor, mayhem and a very cute little kitten!

 

More than David the android in Alien Covenant? Nt, posted on March 29, 2023 at 13:20:20
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He makes Rambo seem relatively harmless by comparison... N/T, posted on March 29, 2023 at 22:23:54
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The Jack Reacher series guts them all... N/T, posted on March 29, 2023 at 22:25:25
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Saw it twice . . ., posted on April 2, 2023 at 14:41:40
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 Hard to imagine Odenkirk as a toughie.

 

Art direction sold the whole thing to me . . ., posted on April 2, 2023 at 14:46:01
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 Not sure whose idea it was to spend the extra millions but it made the series. My favorite was Wick 2 set in Rome.

 

RE: If you liked Wick, check out "Nobody" with Bob Odenkirk, posted on April 3, 2023 at 14:46:02
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 It was great!

 

Re: Final action scene - spoiler alert..., posted on April 4, 2023 at 10:00:11
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 This is part of the story, in case you get a paywall.

"In the bravura action sequence, Keanu Reeves's immensely talented assassin has to defeat a gantlet of enemies to reach the top of the staircase. When it finally seems like he's made it to the summit, he's sent plummeting back to the bottom in full slapstick fashion and has to start from scratch while the clock is ticking. After all, he needs to get to the church by sunrise to compete in a duel with an evil marquis (Bill Skarsgard) that will decide his fate. Luckily a foe comes to his aid: Caine, played by the martial arts master Donnie Yen, who had been hunting Wick for most of the movie's running time and will shoot on behalf of the marquis.

The climb comes close to the end of the nearly three-hour film, and after a flurry of ingenious and relentless fights that feature Wick running around Paris trying to avoid killers who want to collect the price that's on his head. But somehow it outdoes everything that has come before with its mix of technical proficiency, emotional stakes and Looney Tunes-style tumbles. The plan was to make it a "whole John Wick metaphor," Stahelski said in a phone interview, where the hero beats up people and then gets beaten up and has to start all over again.

The idea for a fight set on these steps came to Stahelski during a trip to Paris to scout shooting locations. The director, who has worked as a stuntman, was a big fan of Jean-Pierre Jeunet's "Amélie" and was eager to look at locations used in that film. That brought him to the Sacré-Coeur, which seemed like a good spot for the final showdown. But he wasn't impressed by the steps that directly face the structure. "It didn't look that terrifying to the stunt team I had with me at the time," he said.

Then they walked around the left side of the church and saw the more daunting climb. "You never saw three stunt guys smile faster when we saw those stairs," Stahelski said. "Everybody instantly knew what we were going to do. There was no verbal communication. It was just big smiles." In addition to the Buster Keaton of it all, Stahelski had a spaghetti western in mind for the final alliance between Caine and Wick, who must team up to make it to the top before they can turn their guns on each other.

The stunt coordinator Scott Rogers described Stahelski as like a "kid" thinking about what he could engineer at the location. "I'm thinking, mechanically, a guy's got to go down these steps," Rogers said. "He just turns, and goes, 'Yeah, that would be great.' But it's not something he wouldn't have done in his prime."

According to the stunt coordinator Stephen Dunlevy, the scene was "no more complex than any other fight" on a "John Wick" film, but Rogers added that the very act of scaling the stairs had its challenges. "There's probably more of a physical toll on it because you are fighting in the middle of steps," he said. Reeves had to ascend during each take, then reset — the cinematic version of a StairMaster.

And while charging up flights is exhausting, not to mention a great workout, Reeves had to do that while executing the choreography, which Marinas said is a mix of Wick's regular "gun fu," judo and jujitsu. He also had to find what little cover there is, ducking behind bodies and trees. "We all know how hard it is just to walk up stairs when we don't want to," Marinas said, adding, "Just to think about how well Keanu — not John Wick — Keanu was able to do shooting upwards while stepping. It's hard enough to be a marksman on flat ground.""

 

Wick vs. Gil Bok-soon? My $ is on her... no firearms!... N/T, posted on April 6, 2023 at 16:17:36
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'Rust' drew my attention to the gun play . . ., posted on April 12, 2023 at 21:08:37
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 I noticed that not one gun was actually fired. It was all CGI and sound editing done to near perfection. How else could they be running around shooting each other point-blank? A few of them didn't quite measure up but the overall work was excellent.

Then I got to thinking about the traffic circle riot on the way to the church. How much CGI was there? How many cars were real? Was the "Arc de" real or just a backdrop? There was too much close-call stuff for actors or stunt people.

The whole film could have been green-screen.

 

RE: 'Wick 4': 169 minutes of mayhem . . ., posted on April 14, 2023 at 01:36:39
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 Metallica wrote it best;
Kill 'Em All (Mr. Wick)

 

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