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In Reply to: An angry Ray Bradbury on Michael Moore posted by ephemere on June 16, 2004 at 12:54:50:
The fact that the title to Michael Moore's film may allude in an indirect fashion to Bradbury's Farenheit 451 isn't plagerism, because it's a completely different title. Ray Bradbury can't copyright the word "Farenheit" which he himself borrowed from the famous scientist's family name and "911" isn't "451" (i.e., the temperature which paper burns).Sadly, Mr. Bradbury's politics appear to have creeped into his critical rhetoric judging from his flippant dismissal of Moore's Golden Palm Award and snide remarks about the French and foreigners in general. If he doesn't agree with Mr. Moore's views, then that's fine, but I wish he would've addressed that in his critique rather than come across as crotchety and more than a trifle petty.
AuPh
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- Ray Bradbury, respect him as I do, is grossly in error here. - Audiophilander 01:02:30 06/17/04 (45)
- Suppose someone filmed a "documentary" about Moore and titled it "Bodyweight 451"... - Dalton 12:58:40 06/17/04 (2)
- It wouldn't surprise me if Ray were to consider just such a "novel" idea. - Audiophilander 13:16:19 06/17/04 (1)
- Re: It wouldn't surprise me if Ray were to consider just such a "novel" idea. - Peterloplop 18:46:16 06/17/04 (0)
- Re: Not so... - patrickU 06:14:36 06/17/04 (38)
- You are right, Patrick: Bush (and neocons) share the spirit of "Fahrenheit 451"... - orejones 08:52:29 06/17/04 (7)
- Right on. This is what the upcoming US election will be deciding on. Fascism or Democracy. - edta 19:38:41 06/20/04 (0)
- Bravo; good point. (nt) - Audiophilander 11:07:13 06/17/04 (0)
- I've heard there was a movie "Macbeth 2004" being made... - Victor Khomenko 10:12:53 06/17/04 (3)
- What do you know about Macbeth? It seems your knowledge on this matter is as deep as your knowledge about Spain... - orejones 11:49:09 06/17/04 (2)
- He-he.... it obvously hit the right spot! - Victor Khomenko 11:52:39 06/17/04 (1)
- DURAK! nt - Eldragon 16:54:46 06/22/04 (0)
- Re: By now, dear Bernardo... - patrickU 09:07:40 06/17/04 (0)
- That is correct - Victor Khomenko 06:43:45 06/17/04 (29)
- Whether intentional or not, the title evokes an ironic symbolism that's entirely appropriate. - Audiophilander 11:26:14 06/17/04 (27)
- Re: " Whether intentional or not "..Oh boy! what a man of bad faith! - patrickU 23:44:10 06/17/04 (5)
- I was speaking r-h-e-t-o-r-i-c-a-l-l-y! In other words, it was a figure of speech; the ONLY point ... - Audiophilander 15:18:23 06/19/04 (4)
- Re: OK, you are quite right, I will not post here anymore, only on European boards, sorry for the disturbance.....nt - patrickU 01:58:29 06/20/04 (3)
- Sorry patrick, I'm not trying to run you off, but try to be a little less nasty with your insults, okay? - Audiophilander 21:08:22 06/20/04 (2)
- Re: Insults? Well.... - patrickU 09:33:05 06/21/04 (1)
- The "hiding behind..." crack; it not only was an insult directed at me... - Audiophilander 01:26:09 06/24/04 (0)
- You always ready to drop your integrity when that fits your agenda? - Victor Khomenko 11:36:45 06/17/04 (20)
- Re: You always ready to drop your integrity when that fits your agenda? - Analog Scott 12:01:20 06/21/04 (0)
- Hoist by your own petard: Ray Bradbury wrote the book first; the movie IS a separate entity! - Audiophilander 13:07:48 06/17/04 (18)
- Wow! Such great knowledge! Book first! Like wow! Who would imagine. - Victor Khomenko 13:17:00 06/17/04 (17)
- How many books have you published Victor? BTW, electronics pamphlets don't count! - Audiophilander 14:21:57 06/17/04 (16)
- You are so charming when you are clueless and nasty - Victor Khomenko 14:40:02 06/17/04 (15)
- Re: You are so charming when you are clueless and nasty - Analog Scott 12:06:33 06/21/04 (0)
- Read this S-L-O-W-L-Y and then think about it very, very carefully before responding: - Audiophilander 15:30:16 06/17/04 (13)
- One final pointer - Victor Khomenko 06:12:20 06/18/04 (11)
- Re: One final pointer - Analog Scott 12:12:16 06/21/04 (0)
- Since teaching an old Russian wolfhound new tricks requires a great deal more patience than I can muster at the moment: - Audiophilander 15:42:21 06/19/04 (9)
- More homework for a lazy student - Victor Khomenko 18:17:55 06/20/04 (8)
- No offense, but are you really that dense, Victor? - Audiophilander 21:00:48 06/20/04 (7)
- Re: No offense, but are you really that dense, Victor? - Analog Scott 12:16:43 06/21/04 (0)
- Simply caught you with your pants down - Victor Khomenko 04:44:22 06/21/04 (5)
- The "source" was simply for your benefit; I already knew you were wrong on this. - Audiophilander 08:57:42 06/21/04 (4)
- Ahem... you will never bother to learn, apparently. - Victor Khomenko 09:23:37 06/21/04 (3)
- Sheeeeeeesh! He employed NO DUE DILIGENCE in stopping others from borrowing reference to his book's title! - Audiophilander 11:50:27 06/21/04 (2)
- But your Honor, murders have been commited before! Why judge me? - Victor Khomenko 12:04:02 06/21/04 (1)
- Yes, "Fahrenheit 452" could even be legally used in some instances (i.e., as in a parody of the author's original work)! - Audiophilander 12:17:57 06/21/04 (0)
- You're both right. - ephemere 19:51:39 06/17/04 (0)
- Re: I had the moral, you, the background of his behavior... - patrickU 07:16:15 06/17/04 (0)
- Re: Ray Bradbury, respect him as I do, is grossly in error here. - grinagog 01:41:33 06/17/04 (2)
- I like the orchid story better also. - J.R. 04:20:03 06/17/04 (1)
- I have a neighbour with a very Rare Cycad - grinagog 04:56:10 06/17/04 (0)
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