question on non-progressive players....

Posted by Aroc (A) on July 9, 2002 at 14:10:24

In Reply to: I made a mistake...clarification posted by cfraser on July 9, 2002 at 13:01:49:

Since my TV is non-progressive, I'm wondering if I should be looking at progressive players at all? Does the de-interlacer get in my way, video performance-wise? Could I get better 480i (whatever) output from a non-progressive player than a progressive one? Do progressive players inherently have compromised interlaced (not non-interaced) output? I understand - just like with audio DACs - it's the implementation of the technology - rather than the technology itself - that determines the "real" quality of the final output.

>>You could use your EVS DAC for CD, it would look much better
>>(with good source material, most) than VHS, so don't get too
>>caught up in the high end features

Do I even need a player with the Sage/Faroudja FI2200 chip? That's just the deinteracer, right? Not the MPEG decoder, correct? Does the chroma "bug" effect me since I can't view progressive material? I thought it still would. My ETA for a HDTV is currently 3-5 years at best.

I can feed toslink into my AA DTI-PRO, which feeds my EVS DAC.

>>Then you will have a better appreciation of what capability
>>you are buying for the next time, before sinking big bucks
>>in a virtually daily changing technology.

That's pretty much my concern at this point. If the denon will last me three years, I'll get it. Decent analog outputs and DVD-A. That seems like an "OK" investment of $500. but if it will be embarrassed buy the new $200 players at January 2003 CES (summer 2003 release), video wise - then it's a not-so-hot investment. Even considering the audio. In that case, I'd be better of with an outboard DAC. Then I could just keep upgrading the transport and video sections. but if the Denon is going to be "about as good as it gets" for the next few years. The pendullum swings back to the denon.

Also consider john Johnson's review of the Denon DVD-1600 at Secret's website. Specifically the following quote:

...but as you will see below, I am making the Denon DVD-1600 my reference DVD player because it passed just about every one of our Benchmark tests.

Would the Panasonic RP56 not do as well? I think their [secrets] review of the RP56 listed some "combing" issues during their "Abyss" DVD tests. Here's a link to that review.
did the Denon passt his test? It doesn't look like JJ performed that tests on the DVD-1600.

Assuming the DVD-1600 performs no better (or no better than it would matter to me), it's whether the audio of the Denon is worth $300 more than the RP56. (also DVD-A) Hmmm. There's a bit more to think about than I initally thought. That's both good and bad. heheheh.

>>[Dang, I'm having trouble saying what I mean today...]

Don't worry. It's seems that I'm not doing much better myself! LOL.

:-)

Follow Ups Full Thread

Topic - Anyone have Panasonic DVD-RP62 or RP82 yet?? - Aroc 09:16:05 07/09/02 (37)

Re: Anyone have Panasonic DVD-RP62 or RP82 yet?? - Mantis99 13:00:56 09/10/02 (0)

The RP82's are hitting the stores now! - cfraser 17:06:54 07/16/02 (0)

Played with the RP62 at home for an afternoon last weekend - cfraser 10:06:49 07/09/02 (8)

thanks for your time, I appreciate it... - Aroc 10:39:19 07/09/02 (7)

Does the EVS have Toslink input? - cfraser 11:11:40 07/09/02 (6)

nope. only s/pdif coaxial rca... - Aroc 12:10:41 07/09/02 (5)

I made a mistake...clarification - cfraser 13:01:49 07/09/02 (4)

question on non-progressive players.... - Aroc 14:10:24 07/09/02 (3)

This is why I think you should try one - cfraser 15:19:23 07/09/02 (1)

I hear 'ya.... - Aroc 18:12:07 07/09/02 (0)

forgot to close an italics tag. D'oh! -NT - Aroc 14:11:45 07/09/02 (0)

RP62 a piece of junk... - Rich 09:39:48 07/09/02 (25)

So what's your best DVD-V player, Rich? Have you gone the HTPC route yet? - Methos 13:31:19 07/09/02 (12)

I build computers for fun... - Rich 19:46:25 07/10/02 (7)

Re: I build computers for fun... - Adi 05:42:52 07/11/02 (6)

Re: I build computers for fun... - Rich 06:28:57 07/11/02 (5)

Which software player were you using? I get excellent results with TheaterTek... - Methos 09:03:42 07/11/02 (1)

Power DVD... - Rich 10:43:36 07/11/02 (0)

The Pannys are a mixed bag... - Joe S 08:36:26 07/11/02 (0)

Re: I build computers for fun... - Adi 07:25:42 07/11/02 (1)

Re: I build computers for fun... - Rich 07:50:01 07/11/02 (0)

Re: So what's your best DVD-V player, Rich? Have you gone the HTPC route yet? - Adi 13:42:17 07/10/02 (3)

So, apparently Rich has no problem spending the money... - Methos 15:15:06 07/10/02 (2)

Re: So, apparently Rich has no problem spending the money... - Adi 17:33:01 07/10/02 (1)

No, I was suggesting that external processors do, unless you can feed them a digital signal... - Methos 19:12:55 07/10/02 (0)

It could have been your TV? - cfraser 11:22:25 07/09/02 (10)

Not possible...crt front projector (nt) - Rich 13:20:29 07/09/02 (6)

Then you got a dud I guess... - cfraser 14:58:42 07/09/02 (5)

The projector does nothing to the signal... - Rich 16:27:08 07/09/02 (4)

Like I said, you got a bad one - cfraser 16:55:46 07/09/02 (3)

Re: Like I said, you got a bad one - Rich 06:42:38 07/10/02 (1)

More than a month, to the average Joe - cfraser 18:53:46 07/11/02 (0)

Sorry Rich - cfraser 22:51:03 07/09/02 (0)

I'll give you that, the RP56 *does* look better than the RP62. - Aroc 12:16:49 07/09/02 (2)

I have another DVDP that is so light - cfraser 12:33:16 07/09/02 (1)

Now that's light.... - Aroc 13:38:01 07/09/02 (0)

well that sucks. -NT - Aroc 10:21:44 07/09/02 (0)

Follow Ups

question on non-progressive players.... - Aroc 14:10:24 07/09/02 (3)

This is why I think you should try one - cfraser 15:19:23 07/09/02 (1)

I hear 'ya.... - Aroc 18:12:07 07/09/02 (0)

forgot to close an italics tag. D'oh! -NT - Aroc 14:11:45 07/09/02 (0)