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In Reply to: The Matrix Reloaded posted by michael w on May 15, 2003 at 23:27:31:
first i didn't like the way i was thrust right into this movie. seems that you had to be well aquainted with the first one, and the beginning is without good definition.i was feeling like this is like a nice diner the next day. it's leftovers. a sequel does not have the original insight. i realized immediately it could never be as good as 'the matrix'.
!!!!!!!feeling too that the sequel is there because of commercialism, not because the matrix concept needed to be advanced!!!!!!!!
the movie does not become worthy until the fight scene with the 100 of the same guy. then it begins to become something.
then it follows the action, non-action sequence of scenes like the first one.
some of the action scenes in this film are way better than the first one. some of the best action scenes ever including the highway scene.
i like the development of neo's and morpheus's abilities.
the movie starts out a bit dark but opens up into a good sci-fi movie.
i particularly like the oracle scene on the park bench. nice and bright. i think there's alot of meaning there.
the film is a bit like a mobius(sp?)strip, or an escher painting when you realize you are being taken for a ride. it leads you on and on. a nice ride.
no matrix but overall a nice film for one or maybe two viewings. maybe two or so because i do owe it to myself to figure it out better if it really lends itself to doing so.
amd i admit i'm a touch biased. i am a bit of a fan of matrix and it having a sequel.
but kind of like liking a particular band, and then liking all their albums since you are a fan. but years later, people know the group really only had one good recording.
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Hey John,> > first i didn't like the way i was thrust right into this movie. seems that you had to be well aquainted with the first one, and the beginning is without good definition.
Totally agree.
> > the movie does not become worthy until the fight scene with the 100 of the same guy. then it begins to become something.
Well, I was just rather bored with the fight scene part.
> > then it follows the action, non-action sequence of scenes like the first one.Agree. Very good point you make here.
> > i particularly like the oracle scene on the park bench. nice and bright. i think there's alot of meaning there.
Me too. What'd you think of the scene with the guy in the room with the hundreds of video monitors? Enormous amount of dialogue which I was impressed by but could hardly keep up with. (I had brain surgery in January; maybe my brain has just overly slowed down? :-) Anyhow this is the main part I want to go over on a DVD someday.
Oracle scene is maybe the best in the movie. One question: I didn't see him EAT the candy, so kept thinking he was gonna eat it at some later cliff-hanging scene in the movie. Did I just miss seeing him eat it?
Thanks for your quick post, John, you fellow Jerseyite you. (I'm in Lambertville).
Bill
hi bill, i'm in chilltown if you know what city has that nickname.'well, i was just rather bored with the fight scene'.
the ones up to that point were mundane but i thought this was where the movie was moving to another level. the way the agents were bounced around like balls off a bat was the first awesome scene to me.
video monitor scene. i would guess that he was showing the many false selves of neo with perhaps there being only one true self. the one that they focused in centrally. very interesting choice neo was given and he made the right choice.
i also wan't really tuned into what the guy was saying about how the matrix went through some revisions to cope with human nature.
the oracle scene: incidently wasn't red was the choice of the pill in the first movie to get them out of the matrix, so maybe what you are saying that it may have more relevance.... wasn't this candy shaped a little like a chromosone?
i thought it was a little contrite when she said 'i like candy'. trying to convey a zen message that the reason you should do what you do is to enjoy the moment.
but overall the scene was one where time almost stops still, and real life shows a glimpse.
I didn't notice any contrition from the Oracle on that park bench.And yes, they were little red pills, and no, Neo did not eat one.
The Oracle's "sweet tooth" was hardly the tritest moment in MR IMO. That honor would have to go to the Rave in Zion.
I agree about the rave/sex scene... I kept wondering when it would end. I did enjoy the movie overall... I thought it was fun, but not as deep as the first (to be expected).
you could see it with swordfish, the potential of these directors for action.enjoy it, enjoy its happening.
i was there for 'the exorcist'. stood in line for an hour or so on a cold nyc night.
i was there for star wars, or whatever the one was with the forest scene.
and now i just got reloaded.
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