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Effects & nonsense! ;-) - mollecon 19:17:46 11/08/03 (0)
See it for the effects - they are still nice. Take a pee break when they start talking - I've heard hardcore bar alcoholics make more sense with regards to philosophy!
I don't feel so alone now. . . - Pjay 19:32:47 11/07/03 (2)
I thought the first was OK. The second was hard to watch. The kids want to see the third but I will hold out for a video rental.
Was was that party/love scene all about in II? Guy stands up to say we are all going to die, so lets partay?
And Trinity with Neo have about as much chemistry as ice.
And that stupid kid . . oh, not worth the time.
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- one can only guess ... - Mart 20:31:30 11/07/03 (1)
  ... what I call the "golden calf" scene seemed to be the clueless producers pandering to what they perceived as their chief demographic. The condescension seemed to be a cheap theatrical ploy IMHO as fill as so much of what comprised the haphazard plot. All the slick fashioned smartly tailored direction renown in the original was gone. Maybe if they threw out the crap they could've made one sequel. Maybe.
  
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  - Yes: never make anything for 12 year olds, they go for stuff . . . - Pjay 13:26:12 11/08/03 (0)
    targeted for older people that fell short, not for stuff targeted for them. Think StarTrek TNG.
    I like that "golden calf scene".
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Dunno... - mollecon 14:23:32 11/07/03 (3)
I'm gonna see it tomorrow - the two reviews I've seen wasn't enthusiastic. But I'll just watch it for the sake of the effects - the plot sorta got lost already in #2 anyway.
+, my cousin is paying ;-)
- #2 was excruciatingly dumbed-down IMHO _ <nt> - Mart 14:44:32 11/07/03 (2)
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  - #3 is the-bottom-ring-of-hell dumbed down . . . - albee33 18:43:08 11/07/03 (1)
    Keanu speaks more than in any of the other two episodes. The dialogue is beyond laughable. I don't know how the actors keep a straight face when saying them. The CGI is there--but is not impressive. And, there just wasn't enough of Mr. Smith.
    Carrie looks like a crackhead and shares a scene of intimate feelings with Keanu which is totally out of place for the entire series--let me outta here!
    - In #2 I was forever hoping that ... - Mart 19:50:36 11/07/03 (0)
      ... the backdoors were more than a gimmick at lame attempt to be clever. It was so excruciating that I began rooting against Neo. I was hoping his (Bill & Ted) adventure was a subprogram matrix to house rebels.
      
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Hmm... Fell asleep during the first one... nt - clarkjohnsen 09:51:01 11/07/03 (15)
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- Sucker... what were you expecting, anyway? Xe-Xe... (nt) - Victor Khomenko 11:39:43 11/07/03 (14)
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  - have you seen it? - Dmitry 18:25:47 11/07/03 (13)
    have you?
    - You mean the whole film? No way. (nt) - Victor Khomenko 19:48:27 11/07/03 (12)
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      - Doctor Zhivago syndrome?... - Dmitry 20:01:38 11/07/03 (11)
        
        In Reply to: You mean the whole film? No way. (nt) posted by Victor Khomenko on November 07, 2003 at 19:48:27:
        
        I try to cure mine. Not easy.
        
        Walked out on that one! Totally incompetent. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:27:57 11/08/03 (3)
        
        In Reply to: Doctor Zhivago syndrome?... posted by Dmitry on November 07, 2003 at 20:01:38:
        
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        On Zhivago? And you call yourself an American? - Victor Khomenko 15:35:33 11/08/03 (2)
        
        In Reply to: Walked out on that one! Totally incompetent. nt posted by clarkjohnsen on November 08, 2003 at 08:27:57:
        
        I might be confused and you are not talking about Zhivago the movie, but if you are, inspite of its rather ridiculous Hollywood nature, it has some true touches about the post-revolution life in Russia.
        
        "It has some true touches." Well that's a relief to know! - clarkjohnsen 07:44:01 11/10/03 (1)
        
        In Reply to: On Zhivago? And you call yourself an American? posted by Victor Khomenko on November 08, 2003 at 15:35:33:
        
        Otherwise it sucked big time!
        clark
        
        The film sucked, yeah... (nt) - Victor Khomenko 08:05:34 11/10/03 (0)
        
        In Reply to: "It has some true touches." Well that's a relief to know! posted by clarkjohnsen on November 10, 2003 at 07:44:01:
        
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        have the same problem with indy flicks - Mart 21:29:22 11/07/03 (6)
        
        In Reply to: Doctor Zhivago syndrome?... posted by Dmitry on November 07, 2003 at 20:01:38:
        
        I keep getting the "so what?" reaction
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        IMO, indies vary. nt - clarkjohnsen 08:29:35 11/08/03 (1)
        
        In Reply to: have the same problem with indy flicks posted by Mart on November 07, 2003 at 21:29:22:
        
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        yes _ usually from bad to worse but occasionally a jewel is found admist the ... rest _ <nt> - Mart 14:34:17 11/08/03 (0)
        
        In Reply to: IMO, indies vary. nt posted by clarkjohnsen on November 08, 2003 at 08:29:35:
        
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        Re: have the same problem with indy flicks - Dmitry 21:35:18 11/07/03 (3)
        
        In Reply to: have the same problem with indy flicks posted by Mart on November 07, 2003 at 21:29:22:
        
        By Doctor Zhivago Syndrome I mean that when Pasternak's novel came out in Italy in the late 50s, I believe, there were demonstrations of people holding posters and generally maligning the book. But noone had read it. It was banned.
        So I was hinting to that. We all have a little prejudice in us.
        I liked the 1st Matrix. It was excellent and dynamic. And a pretty good sci-fi flick too.
        
        Re: have the same problem with indy flicks - Victor Khomenko 05:09:16 11/08/03 (2)
        
        In Reply to: Re: have the same problem with indy flicks posted by Dmitry on November 07, 2003 at 21:35:18:
        
        ***We all have a little prejudice in us.
        Sometimes it is called experience.
        At any rate, it is completely incorrect to suggest that one must watch the whole movie to know what it is.
        
        Re: have the same problem with indy flicks - Dmitry 05:47:21 11/08/03 (1)
        
        In Reply to: Re: have the same problem with indy flicks posted by Victor Khomenko on November 08, 2003 at 05:09:16:
        
        I think you're relying on commercial snippets. You'd never rent it.:)
        Anyhow, Matrix 1 is not a bad film.
        Perhaps better than not bad.
        
        You are right - I would NEVER rent it, but I saw parts on TV channels - Victor Khomenko 06:38:43 11/08/03 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: have the same problem with indy flicks posted by Dmitry on November 08, 2003 at 05:47:21:
        
        What I saw bored me to death.
        I can and have watched many bad films - I am good at finding fun elements in many of them. That one was such a nothing I simply forgot and moved on.
        I will take the Commando any day over it. Or any (OK, almost any) of Stalone or Bronson films.
        BTW - I can't recall the instance when the commercial clips provided a wrong impression. Maybe there ARE such cases, but I can't recall any.
Does it matter? - rhizomatic 09:05:58 11/07/03 (3)
You saw the first one, right?
And I bet you saw the second one...riiight?
Then you're gonna see the third one. Face facts. No--no Mart, don't argue, it's gonna happen. Accept it.
On the other hand, if you haven't seen 1 and/or 2, you're not gonna see it.
I've heard what, in fact, makes sense to hear about it: the plot is laughable, the graphics are mindblowing. Personally I think it's a shame they botched it so badly...but then again, the first one wasn't really so hot in the dialogue dept. either. It's just been easy to romanticize in light of the eye-roller that the second one turned out to be. Too bad. They had a good idea and could've done more with it, but it sounds like they stalled at the idea of Agent Smith as the ultimate villain, which is so lame.
But, anyway, I'm not going to lie, I'm gonna see the thing this weekend. For the sake of closure. I will ooh and aah at the effects, which cost more to make than everyone on this board combined will make in their entire lifetimes. Then, that's it, I'm done with Hollywood blockbusters.
Until, uh, the third Lord of the Rings comes out, I mean.

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- Does to me... - tunenut 13:42:08 11/09/03 (0)
  I saw the first one, thought it was pretty cool, probably not as earthshaking as many other people thought...but then of course I saw the 2nd and it was a waste of my time, and I couldn't care less about the 3rd. I doubt I'll ever see it.
- Re: Does it matter? - patrickU 11:35:48 11/07/03 (0)
  I saw the first ( was quite good like Star wars but for the 2000�s)..I will NOT see the third part..AND I did had a look at the second .
- FWIW, saw & bought #1 on LD _ rented #2 _ may wait for network broadcast on #3 _ <nt> - Mart 09:13:09 11/07/03 (0)
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