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Wrong, it's a combination of documentary and social satire (i.e., dark comedy).

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In Reply to: Re: Michael Moore�s " Fahrenheit 9 / 11---------- posted by patrickU on July 29, 2004 at 13:43:00:

This film is NOT garbage, whether you approve of it's message or not, and yes I do think you're espousing your own political beliefs and are being disingenuous when you claim neutrality.
AuPh

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Wrong. It's pure PROPAGANDA . . . . - albee33 18:08:21 07/29/04 (5)
It is not a documentary but it is shot on film stock. So, it is a film. Moore would have done well under Hitler. Imagine his films on all the social undesirables in a Germanic Flint, MI. Bet he could tear'em a new one.
- What do you mean Moore could've done well under Hitler? - Audiophilander 00:34:04 07/30/04 (4)
  There is only one candidate in this race whose family has direct ties to the Third Reich, and here's a clue, it isn't John Kerry! So, technically speaking, Moore has managed to do well under an almost fascist Administration that has tried every possible way to prevent his film from being released this side of threats, arrest and confiscation.
  You may not like Michael Moore or what he had to say in Fahrenheit 9/11; you may not like the manipulative techniques he employed to get his message across; you may think Moore is a propagandist, but when all is said and done, there is far more reality in his documentay than there is embellishment. The packed audience in the theater where I saw F9/11 gave Moore's film a standing ovation; it was well deserved. BTW, reports have 3000 folks showing up for the Crawford, Texas screening last night; as expected, the bogus POTUS wasn't in attendence.
  AuPh
  - Re: A standing ovation ? - patrickU 03:24:52 07/30/04 (3)
    For what? For this naive piece of bad cinema? If only he would have arise about sheer mediocrity and made a mordant critic of the Bush administration, and you can do that on ALL administration, it would have been fun.
    In the end it is as stupid and larmoyant than the most stupid propaganda film from the other side.
    Arise, arise!
    - Yes, a standing ovation, AND cheers. - Audiophilander 11:51:26 07/30/04 (2)
      To fight a propagandist like the bogus POTUS one must employ the tools of his trade, and Michael Moore did this brilliantly; sorry you failed to appreciate it.
      Fahrenheit 9/11 is a polemic, but it's also a work of art. The propaganda utilized, and please note that all documentaries are propaganda of one sort or another if the idea is to sway public opinion, is based on fact. What Michael Moore attempted to do was to connect enough of the dots for the audience to get an accurate picture of the Bush Administration and George W. Bush, the man. He did that, and I can't wait for the DVD; hopefully there will be LOTS of bonus footage!
      Regards,
      AuPh
      - Re: Yes, a standing ovation, AND cheers. - patrickU 11:59:29 07/30/04 (1)
        
        In Reply to: Yes, a standing ovation, AND cheers. posted by Audiophilander on July 30, 2004 at 11:51:26:
        
        Well, If you reading some other posts here you will see, what a good and balanced answer there can be. Why being always so agressive?
        You meant certainly a LOTR of bonus....
        Freudian slip?
        Regards,
        Patrick
        PS: And do not ever think that I am ever taking party for what I do not stand for!
        
        I meant what I said; just wait, Michael Moore's "Director's cut" should have LOTS of out-take footage. - Audiophilander 16:51:30 07/30/04 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: Yes, a standing ovation, AND cheers. posted by patrickU on July 30, 2004 at 11:59:29:
        
        Think of all the material he must've had to edit out in order to bring the film in at a reasonable length and maintain it's focus. This short-hand may in fact be one of the unfortunate albeit necessary drawbacks to filming such a complicated subject; in fact, this may be what is feeding many of his critics. However, instead of just connecting the dots to suggest the Bush portrait, a Director's Cut may be able to include enough damning evidence to paint Picasso's friggin' Guernica.
        BTW, I will ALSO be purchasing the Extended Version of LoTR: Return of the King, but that's another thread! ;^)
        AuPh
Re: Wrong, it's a combination of documentary and social satire (i.e., dark comedy). - patrickU 14:57:00 07/29/04 (0)
Curiously one of my friend ( very right ) did love this film. I fits well on the not anymore latent anti Americanism in Europe....

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