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anyone has upgraded the Krell HTS2 to 7.1?

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Ruben

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I am just wondering if someone has done it. I would love to hear your opinion. I am thinking about it. I care about how does it sound; any improvement, how long it took to get it done, etc. Apparently they are changing the DAC for the better. Is it that true?
Ruben
San Francisco, California

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they don't have video switching - petew 15:06:49 04/27/02 (5)
I've been shopping around for a wide bandwidth component video switch in these HT processors/receivers. I looked at the Krells but can't tell if the know about it--the photo's I've seen don't show any component inputs/outputs. Is that why everybody is dumping their HTS machines? (there'a a bunch on Audiogon--people can't seem to get rid of them fast enough)...because they don't do video? If you're a video junkie you've got DVD, HD satellite, perhaps the JVC HD VCR...that's three sources requiring huge video bandwidth switching, but I'm not seeing this in anybody's advertising...what's the deal with that?
It seems like the new Denon receivers (AVR-5803) are the only HT gear that has this (100mHz and three into one). And they allow you to mix and match video, so you can run S-video or composite or even RF video in and output component video to your display. neat! These things are flying off the shelf at $4300 a pop--no discounts. Four grand for a mass-market receiver! never thought I'd see the day. But if you want to switch from your DVD to your HD satellite what other choice do you have?
I don't know of any other manufacturer who does this.
I guess I'm the only person in the world with wide bandwidth video sources...?--I'm sick of crawling behind the gear and pulling out cables to swap one video signal for another.

everbody else is watching RF or composite video???? old VHS tapes with 240 lines of resolution and sucky color?
weird.
And another thing...Who gives a crap about how it sounds? After all, the brain defalts to video, not audio...a serious music lover doesn't have video in the listening room.
With an image on the screen your brain can't tell the difference between a moan and a fart--the brain uses all it's bandwidth to process the visual stimulus, leaving almost nothing for audio processing. People tell me they turn the TV off when they listen to music...and stare at the blank screen, am I right? After a few minutes they turn it on...am I right? Not fooling me.
And another thing...seven channels...what a joke...just how many people have living rooms as big as movie theaters?
oh dear...guess i got an a rant again...
time for my medication
- Re: they don't have video switching - kotches 06:01:13 04/30/02 (0)
  If you're that serious about video switching, get an Extron unit, and be done with it. Extrons are good for between 350 and 500mHz, which is well beyond the requirements.
  Regards,
- Re: they don't have video switching - Rick 20:31:47 04/27/02 (3)
  you really have to think about what you are typing, you say who cares about what it sounds like, da, its main function is its sound, also , it has component inputs, try taking the time to look at krell's websight, the specs are right there.
  - Re: they don't have video switching - petew 12:41:43 04/28/02 (2)
    i spent alot of time looking at Krell's website, and did not see any component video inputs/outputs on the HTS 1, nor dor I recall any mention of component video inputs/outputs in the plethora of Krell HTS's advertised for sale at Audiogon. But this is the standard...few HT processor/preamp/controller manufacturers bother to get into the details of the video processing/conversion/switching efficiencies of their gear...like say, how much of the signal is attenuated in the pass-thru.
    in fact, i find it odd that the single most important function of a HT piece is how it handles the video...and yet, all anyone wants to talk about is the audio. Audio is not important in home theater--it's a complete waste of resources.
    the most recent research to discover how the human brain handles audio and video information supports my claim that video takes priority over audio when both are present.
    need proof...
    try driving a car while talking on you cell phone--you can only do one thing well...you either aren't driving, or you aren't listening.
    but that's too dangerous...so try this
    try watching a live tv broadcast of the World Trade Towers being hit by a jetliner, and listening to you boss talking on the phone...
    game, set, match. you're fired.
    - Re: they don't have video switching - Rick 15:23:11 04/28/02 (1)
      I OWNED both the hts 1 and the 7.1, both have video switching, component inputs and outputs !
      - thanks Rick (nt) - petew 03:59:12 04/29/02 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: they don't have video switching posted by Rick on April 28, 2002 at 15:23:11:
Re: anyone has upgraded the Krell HTS2 to 7.1? - Rick 19:49:46 04/22/02 (7)
I recently bought the krell 7.1, I used to own the hts 1, before buying the krell I auditioned the lex mc 12, I felt the lex had a artificial sound musicly although very good in ht, but definatly not worth the $10000 list, I am mostly music oriented so I bought the krell, it is a huge step up from the hts 1, the detail and soundstage are stunning, in ht I found it as good or better then the lex, I must admit that I am not a ht critical listener, the build quality is typical krell, the only thing that I do not like is that the remote is not backlit, the other good thing is that krell has finally fixed the digital delay, if you are music oriented I would highly recommend the krell, if ht is your preference, then I would save some bucks and buy a used lex mc1, good luck
- I have the Krell HTS 5.1 - Ruben 11:38:33 04/23/02 (6)
  I know that there is an upgrade available to me. It cost $1500, and the worst is that I would have to part from the krell for at least 2 weeks, perhaps longer. Apparently they replaced the DAC to 24/192 Burr Brown. They also improved the crossover network. I am just looking at my options. I want to hear from someone that got the 5.1 and did the upgrade to 7.1.
  Ruben
  San Francisco, California
  - Re: I have the Krell HTS 5.1 - kotches 07:18:35 04/25/02 (5)
    Ruben,
    In fairness, you're paying the retail price difference for the upgrade, which is US$1500.
    It is my understanding that the line stage is also updated, but I don't know that with absolute certainty.
    Regards,
    - $1500 for HTS II to HTS 7.1 - big lobsta 18:46:26 04/25/02 (4)
      But $4500 for the original HTS (5.1) to the HTS if and a big IF (a) you are the original owner and (b) is less than one or two years old. So I have been told.
      Is it worth the $4500 upgrade?
      
      All I ask is for a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
      - Re: $1500 for HTS II to HTS 7.1 - kotches 06:39:11 04/26/02 (3)
        
        In Reply to: $1500 for HTS II to HTS 7.1 posted by big lobsta on April 25, 2002 at 18:46:26:
        
        Big, Lobsta:
        You are getting back a brand new piece. The chassis and all interior components are replaced. The original MSRP was US$4500, and you're paying a $1000 premium over brand new.
        Given the age of the HTS-1, I'd say this is not unreasonable -- of course that's me talking about spending your money ;-)
        Regards,
        
        I plan to keep the HTS 1 for quite awhile - big lobsta 08:47:36 04/26/02 (2)
        
        In Reply to: Re: $1500 for HTS II to HTS 7.1 posted by kotches on April 26, 2002 at 06:39:11:
        
        I cannot afford two more speakers and I don't beleive that SACD/DVDa will have music I enjoy in that format.
        All I ask is for a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
        
        But the reason is not HT, the music is...... - Ruben 13:17:51 04/26/02 (1)
        
        In Reply to: I plan to keep the HTS 1 for quite awhile posted by big lobsta on April 26, 2002 at 08:47:36:
        
        Well If I upgrade to 7.1 is not because I want to add two more speakers. I will because the hts2 7.1 is, according to the news release a better DAC with multiple crossovers settings. Please if someone has done the upgrade report back.
        Ruben
        San Francisco, California
        
        I agree - big lobsta 14:31:12 04/26/02 (0)
        
        In Reply to: But the reason is not HT, the music is...... posted by Ruben on April 26, 2002 at 13:17:51:
        
        But I would not upgrade just so I could listen to SACD/DVDa when there isn't any material that appeals to me available yet (remasterd or new).
        I probably would consider upgrading in a couple of years and consider all my options.
        
        All I ask is for a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.

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