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In Reply to: When can we expect to see boatloads of DVI-capable DVD players ? posted by oscar on July 01, 2003 at 07:22:56:

Logjam should break this fall with Denon's 5900. Looks to be killer from the preliminary buzz. Video better than the already excellent 2900, iLink hirez digital interface, DVI/HDMI video connections, etc. I expect the 5900 will be setting the bar for the other manufacturers.
Austin

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Re: When can we expect to see boatloads of DVI-capable DVD players ? - AbeCollins 09:26:55 07/01/03 (7)
My Sony 16:9 (HDTV) TV has a DVI input.... and the new Sony DirecTV satellite receiver has a DVI output. If my TV has just one DVI input, how will I be able to use the satellite receiver AND newer DVD players with DVI output? My Denon receiver does not have DVI capability for switching.
- Thats been one of the issues over at the AVS forum - jk@home 11:36:43 07/01/03 (5)
  "Now we need TVs with 2 DVI inputs" Think I read that the new Pioneer Elites may have two. I'm getting a Hitachi, with one input, tried of waiting.
  Wait till the new pre/pros will have DVI video and firewire audio connections, of course everything else we own now will be old news.
  Thats why my next "pre/pro" will be a HT receiver, something I can (sooner? or) later retire to the bedroom or garage!
  - Dang it ! this is just one more issue I have to worry about. - oscar 19:18:28 07/01/03 (4)
    Wonder how many TVs/projectors will have more than one DVI input to work with ? Will the new stuff introduced at the September CEDIA show have multiple DVI Inputs ? Or maybe I need to say f**k it and don't worry about DVI for a (near-term) progressive DVD player ? I'm pretty sure I'd want DVI with the TBD HD source but if the DLP Projectors I'm currently looking at won't support this for a while ....?
    - Re: Dang it ! this is just one more issue I have to worry about. - DigitalAllTheWay 21:59:48 09/22/03 (0)
      TVs vary greatly in the number of input options offered. Projectors tend to offer fewer choices most-likely because they have smaller profiles. I went with a projector because I really dislike the concept of a large and bulky set. I like something light and easy to relocate (at least from a weight and size perspective.
      My opinion is that you don't need that many input options on a TV or projector. If you like a TV, look for front inputs (for those quick-connect moments--you'll have them and then appreciate my advice). Why don't you need many inputs? It is a question of quality. I want quality. I want an all-digital stream from source to projector. DA and AD conversions can reduce the overall quality of an image as it moves through your systems. You don't need many inputs on your projector or TV because they should really be on your video processor. You only need one DVI cable from your video processor to your TV or projector.
      Sadly, it will probably be next year before the first video processors are released with multiple DVI inputs - and don't think two will cover you if you're a fanatic like me. I need one for satellite (Sony has a sweet DTV receiver with DVI out), one for your DVD player (now under $200 - and who needs all the extras in your DVD player, you only need the bit stream), and don't forget to plan for your TIVO-type device--hopefully soon to be released with DVI in and out.
      Good Luck!
    - What I understand is that there are different flavors - jk@home 02:46:34 07/02/03 (2)
      of DVI, and the standard now may still change (DVI-D to DVI-I?), which would be from a video only signal to a video and audio signal.
      It's just about impossible to plan for the future, a good example is when I bought my DVD/SACD player, it wasn't a progressive scan model, didn't need that due to the old TV being used. Now that I'm getting a new RPTV, I've read that the line doublers in the Hitachi are better anyway, so I don't need a progressive scan model.... wow, a break for a change!
      I'm waiting on a TBD/HD receiver until after Xmas, I don't feel the manufactures have they�re act together yet.There should be better choices after the first of next year(maybe more programming too)
      - Re: What I understand is that there are different flavors - williak 07:17:15 07/02/03 (1)
        
        In Reply to: What I understand is that there are different flavors posted by jk@home on July 02, 2003 at 02:46:34:
        
        Bad news on the DVD player. There is NO TV-based deinterlacer that can hold a candle to those in even the cheapest progressive players. Sorry, maybe you'll get a break next time.
        
        oh well, at least it was cheap - jk@home 09:35:06 07/02/03 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: What I understand is that there are different flavors posted by williak on July 02, 2003 at 07:17:15:
        
        Read your earlier post on " legs" and future treads. Great post, especially agree about the part about "disposable equipment" (like my player) to hold over till the dust settles.
- Re: When can we expect to see boatloads of DVI-capable DVD players ? - williak 11:35:38 07/01/03 (0)
  Abe,
  As DVI/HDMI becomes the hirez video connection of choice, many others will face the same problem you do. This will generate demand and supply will surely follow follow. You'll then have a temporary solution. Probably an expensive remote control switcher or a cheap manual switchbox. Nexgen receivers and processors will switch DVI/HDMI video in addition to the existing component video switching. Your next receiver/pre-pro upgrade will solve the issue "permanently".
  Austin

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