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bloatboy06

I am in the process of upgrading my Sony str de 835 to something with better overall sound quality, and power.
Specifics on requirements:
2 or 3 sub outs (running def techs front mains and center have LFE inputs)
Power needed, but more for putting detail into 2 channel than to shake the room.
5.1 or 7.1 (won't be able to utilize 7.1 for some time if ever)
No more than 17" wide, and silver face if possible.
Have listened to Denon 3802, B&K avr505, and Rotel separates (realize the disparity in cost, but I am really trying to discern what's out there).
Trying to stay in the used sub $2,000-2,500 range.
Thank you very much for your input.
Mike

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Re: Need help finding an HT receiver - SoundMike 11:40:38 02/06/04 (9)
Go for the Denon 3802 or 4802 it has better quality, power and 7.1
- Denon 4802/5800 sub outs, and Atkis remote - bloatboy 16:01:12 02/06/04 (8)
  Thanks for the reply.
  Do you happen to know if it has 2 sub outs? From what I have been reading, and listening to the Denon is a front runner in my choices, and I have seen the 5803, and 4802 used at a decent price.
  I have heard some negatives about the Atkis remote. Is the hype true?
  Thanks for the opinions
  - Low carb' remote? - ppopp 08:43:45 02/12/04 (0)
    heh-heh. I know it's spelt different. Couldn't resist with the current fad of low carb this, low carb that, low carb internet connections!
  - What's the obsession with multiple sub outs? - Markw* 03:37:44 02/08/04 (6)
    Ever hear of "Y" connectors?
    - Re: What's the obsession with multiple sub outs? - bloatboy06 06:29:17 02/08/04 (5)
      I am running 3 powered subs in the front mains and center each with an LFE input. I have two outs right now, and the extra bass from the LFE in the center channel really adds to the effects. So yes, I have heard of Y connectors. Get some sleep!
      - Re: What's the obsession with multiple sub outs? - Markw* 13:56:51 02/08/04 (4)
        
        In Reply to: Re: What's the obsession with multiple sub outs? posted by bloatboy06 on February 08, 2004 at 06:29:17:
        
        If you only knew what you were saying here, you would realize how stupid it sounds.
        
        Re: What's the obsession with multiple sub outs? - bloatboy 13:43:37 02/09/04 (3)
        
        In Reply to: Re: What's the obsession with multiple sub outs? posted by Markw* on February 08, 2004 at 13:56:51:
        
        I guess I don't understand. I only wrote in this asylum to get some advice.
        What am I missing? I guess I thought that by having multiple outs the receiver would be doing the splitting more evenly than one or more Y connectors post signal processing would do. Sorry about the earlier comment. I would really appreciate some knowledgeable input.
        Thanks
        
        Well, 5.1, 6.1, 7.1 etc are about discrete signals being fed - ppopp 08:49:31 02/12/04 (2)
        
        In Reply to: Re: What's the obsession with multiple sub outs? posted by bloatboy on February 09, 2004 at 13:43:37:
        
        and the point one means only one discrete feed to a sub-woofer. Splitting the low frequency output of 5.1 is something you have to do with you set-up if you prefer and wish to maintain the LFE routing the way it currently stands. For those who wish to run more than one sub-woofer, some subs are available (Martin Logan for example) with line in and out connections. your case requires a little bit of improvisation. It seems as though splitting the LFE o/p is the only easy way.
        
        Re: Well, 5.1, 6.1, 7.1 etc are about discrete signals being fed - bloatboy 16:21:04 02/12/04 (1)
        
        In Reply to: Well, 5.1, 6.1, 7.1 etc are about discrete signals being fed posted by ppopp on February 12, 2004 at 08:49:31:
        
        Thanks for the input. I am still on a learning curve, and I appreciate any knowledge that will make me a more informed buyer, and listener. I would especially like to avoid having misconceptions about what might be needed or what is available to improve my system. I love listening to music, and am trying to learn how to enjoy it more.
        My apologies to Markw* for my earlier comment.
        Thanks,
        Mike
        
        Re: Well, 5.1, 6.1, 7.1 etc are about discrete signals being fed - Markw* 02:36:19 02/13/04 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: Well, 5.1, 6.1, 7.1 etc are about discrete signals being fed posted by bloatboy on February 12, 2004 at 16:21:04:
        
        Apology accepted. Berivity of words, even when conveying the answer to the question, is sometimes misconstrued as snippiness. Wrong assumption...

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