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Most of the posts here seem to be discusing the HD or BluRay stuff. I STILL have zero interest in these formats.
How about the rest of you non-hidef folks out there?
The selections sucks, the format war is still up for grabs and the prices for the same old crap are twice as high. So, do you want to wait too?
Anyone FOR hidef can pass this survey by.
But if you got a 1080p but no HD-DVD or no BluRay, you can post too...
Once one of these 2 scenerios pans out then I'll jump into HD disks.
nt
Best Regards,
Chris redmond.
For me to go to “True High Def” I need to:
1. Buy a new TV as I only have a 720p plasma (which I bought two weeks ago at a wicked good price and don’t regret buying one bit). I would have had to buy a new set before the new plasma as I was using a 720p 50 inch LCD projection.
2. Buy a player (or two*) and cross my fingers that it survives the war, the movies I really want come on said format, etc or two. And what happens when the new release I’m dying for only comes out on the other format?
3. Find room for said player in my rack.
4. Buy a HDMI cable.
5. Buy 6 analog cables to get the newest “high def” audio formats because my Parasound doesn’t have the ability to decode the new audio formats
6. Re purchase High Def copies of movies I already own.
7. * if I end up with two machines I’m going to need to get an HDMI switcher since the Parasound doesn’t have a HDMI input.
Where is the upside for me again? I mean, I’m looking at, what, at least $2,500 to buy in if I stick with a cheap 42 inch 1080p plasma, go HD, and buy cheap cables? And then I’m going to spend $29.00 for a new HD release vs. $15.00 for the DVD (yeah I know I can rent them)? And once I’m in I have to hope that they don’t decide to go to HDMI 1.4. I have to start switching inputs on my TV to watch cable since I don’t have anything that up converts component video to HDMI and I’m a lazy bastard, blah, blah, blah.
So tell me again who is winning out of all this mess and confusion because it’s not me. I don’t care how much better the picture is (and I can see how much better it is) I’m not playing this game. I’m going to call it the BS that it is and flip ‘em the bird for now.
Waiting for shake out. Have an upscaling Oppo.
Works for me now for now!
- DeeCee
Not until when I only have to pick one HD player to play all content.
Either --
one format "wins"
or all content starts coming out on both formats
or a combo player reaches a pricepoint of $200-300.
Then I buy and not til.
I have a 70" Qualia RPTV that is a true 1920 x 1080 set, but, I am still waiting to decide on the appropriate source. It is not a matter of the cost of the machine, I just don't want to buy software that will be abandoned in the future (anyone interested in my LaserDisc collection?).
What I require is a machine that will do the job of reproducing movies superbly, without my having to jump through all kinds of hoops to get it to boot up, without having to do any stupid firmware upgrades every few months, without having a large percentage of discs failing to work right, etc. This machine would have to also do a great job with standard DVDs as well. I have seen far too many systems where the player and processor or projector are not properly "talking" to each other, and this is the case even if one single brand is involved.
I think a lot of issues still need to be resolved and certain practices standardized (I think I'll wait for HDMI 1.587 to come out, which should be in a few months at this rate). I am leaning toward Blu-ray, but, I am concerned with reports that some discs from certain pressing plants have been subject to laser "rot" (something I know about as a laserdisc owner).
In the interim, I experience high definition through my cable company, which means, constant picture lock-up, pixilation, etc.
There are a lot of HD channels on Dishnetwork, and it is a rare event when I see any picture problem during an HD broadcast. There are some channels that show many older high-quality films in superb HD, films that aren't available on either format disc, if you are interested in that kind of thing. Last weekend I watched a restored version of "Rear Window" and last night I recorded an excellent HD transfer of Kurosawa's "High and Low." The premium channels show more recent releases.
Joe
upsampled DVDs were no longer good enough even on a 720p display. And the number of HD channels/progamming seems to be rising slowly but steadily. I used to jump for joy when I got the occasional Sports channel in HD; now it's getting to the point I expect to get the major sports in HD or I get pissed.
I have to admit I am curious about the new formats but this format war is for the birds. Been there, done that when the VASTLY superior Beta lost out to VHS. No more. I have a neat little 1080p upscaling Oppo and a 1080i upscaling Panny machine. Both provide nicely clear and detailed video with good sound. Works for me. For now.
Cheers, Joe
The old player was beginning to die, and $179 for a player (A3) and 10 discs from Amazon made it a no-brainer. If Toshiba folded the HD DVD tents tomorrow, I'd still have a player that makes my current DVD collection look much better upconverted to 1080i via HDMI on my display than my wheezing its last Panny did.Before that came along, I was planning on either waiting for a combi player with acceptable PQ at the 300-400 price point, or the survivor to drag its badly battered carcass across the format war battlefield and plant a victory flag.
We rent from friends who have a huge independent video store. I rent five films a week, except sometimes in the Summer.
They refuse to get either format at this time, and we watch our 42" plasma at a distance of about 14' anyway. So...for the time being I don't give it much thought.
Rod
nt
..... up until Toshiba and Wally World decided to lower the price of entry to under $200 (my threshold for plunging into a format war) I was something of a fencesitter (Yawn!!!) myself. My Oppo upsmapled regular DVD well enough to make me happy.
BUT, they did, and I bought into HD-DVD. The high price of movies? Well, buying from Amazon's "new & used" has gotten me HD movies for less than their regular DVD counterparts. And once I saw "Planet Earth in high-def I was convinced. It's the future man. Will it win the format war? Who knows. Do I care. At under two bills not really - though I'd like it to. (But I'm covered as my son has a new PS3 - so BlueRay could be in my future too.)
Which ever (if either) format wins it still comes down to the picture quality - and a good high-def picture beats upsampled like a redheaded stepchild. (Teresa, it's the differece between a good SACD and upsampled CD, just to put it in terms so you know what I'm talking about.)
John Crossett___
It sounds like English, but I can't understand a word you're saying.
No improvement over upscaled, and complete lack of selection.
Click on the link, and scroll down to the comparison pics of Jack Black from King on both DVD and HD DVD. If you can't see the difference, Dalton is right-see an optometrist, pronto.
Sony's got your number.
- http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl?forum=hirez&n=40843&highlight=Padreken&r=&session= (Open in New Window)
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But I have to agree that standard def DVD upscaled only to 720p still looks surprisingly acceptable on my 106" screen.
There are only a handful of movies that I have felt were worthy of buying on HD DVD so far. Why would I buy a moderately amusing movie like "Tremors" on HD DVD for $24.99 when I could get all 4 Tremors movies on DVD for $9.99? And I haven't adopted Blu-Ray because the players are still too expensive and problematic, while the movies cost about $5 more than they do on HD DVD.
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Wait a minute here. I have an upscaling Oppo (981HD) and tho the picture on a regular DVD is nice, it's nowhere near what I see on a regular hi def show on HD Net and that's only 1080i. Running HDMI cables to a Mitsu 1080p flat 46" LCD. What gives?
Things are looking great
And they're only getting better
....more I can't be bothered.
1 - I'm much more of an audiophile than a videophile. Any money to spent in my dual purpose room usually will go to the two channel end of things.
2 - I have an X1 PJ which has a built in upscaler, a pretty good one I think. To go hi-def would mean replacing my PJ which for the most part I'm happy with (a bit fuzzy on cable, but otherwise it's fine). When the bulb blows I'll probably just buy a hi-def PJ rather than replace the bulb, no sooner though (and in theory I have MANY hours left on my bulb).
3 - Can't deal with the "war". If (if) a winner imerges I may go with it. In the meantime, no.
I will. Just a few days ago I was completely with you. I thought all of this business was a big yawner. I really can't care all that much about which format wins, if either, and the free "come-on" movies that come with players have zero inetrest to me for the most part. Moreover, upscaled DVD looks VERY good on my 58 inch plasma set. It's not as good as top HD, but it's far better than ordinary DVD, and I can watch it with with real pleasure; the films in some local movie theaters often don't look any better. Furthermore, there are many more HD movies of interest to me coming over my satellite service than are available on disc. So far well over 90% of the releases on both formats have little interest for me.But two nights ago I bought a HD DVD player for two reasons: it was so cheap (less than $200 delivered), and a scan of a my rental company's films showed that there were enough films of interest to me in HD DVD to make it worth it, though not all that many to be sure. I'm not even sure that this relatively small investment is a worthwhile one, but if I decide it isn't, I won't be out too much money. I suspect I'll get my money's worth out of it. Having now watched some operas in HD on a big screen, I can see a potential I never saw before, and there are a number of operas that are going to be released in the near future. Played through my good sound system, I found I could enjoy opera in HD almost as much as seeing it live from a distant balcony seat where you can't even see the expressions on the singer's faces.
Joe
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