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• it's the engine in the chip + software that makes the dif - petew 15:29:45 03/26/08 (0)
  In Reply to: RE: Is there any point to getting a Blu ray for a 420p screen? posted by late on March 23, 2008 at 07:28:31

  I'm very happy with my (now 7 year old) 480p panny plasma 42".
  
  It all has to do with viewing distance...
  
  I'm seated about 12 feet away and it (still) looks fabulous.
  
  yes you can see the dots up close -- who watches tv like that ?
  
  I'm using a Sony SAT HD300 (directv) as source.
  
  {the Directv hardware is crap -- you can get a Sony sat receiver on ebay for $40 ( mfg. list $800+)}
  
  1080p is marketing hype -- you don't need that kind of resolution for screens under 65"... most folk ... the kind of crap they watch (like Battlestar Gigantica -- the show was shot on pro video tape -- not film like 60's era Star Trek) looks worse when up-converted to hi-res. ... you can see all the noise from the video tape !
  
  

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• Nope.. no 720p though it WILL accept 1080i over DVI - oscar 15:30:38 03/24/08 (0)
  In Reply to: RE: Is there any point to getting a Blu ray for a 420p screen? posted by late on March 23, 2008 at 07:28:31

  I just browsed over the manual so you might be in luck. Just make sure the Blu-ray player is set to 1080i though the HDMI/DVI handshaking might automatically be set to 1080i. You will need an HDMI to DVI adapter and you will have to use coax/optical/analog to get the audio out.
  
  The last build on this model was Jan '06 which looks like it was the Mitsu model available at the time you bought it.
  
  

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• Since you have a 720p set... - Harmonia 23:24:19 03/23/08 (6)
  In Reply to: RE: Is there any point to getting a Blu ray for a 420p screen? posted by late on March 23, 2008 at 07:28:31

  ...most BDs will look better - especially from filmsourced material. The Oppos does an excellent job of upscaling but HD is better, even at 720p.
  
  How big is your set?
  
  

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  • He has a 52" - Jazz Inmate 10:20:04 03/24/08 (5)
    In Reply to: RE: Since you have a 720p set... posted by Harmonia on March 23, 2008 at 23:24:19

    If it really is 720, there is no doubt he would benefit from a Blu-ray player.
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    • Regrettably, it is not 720p ..nt - late 14:18:08 03/24/08 (4)
      In Reply to: RE: He has a 52" posted by Jazz Inmate on March 24, 2008 at 10:20:04

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      • But it is. - Harmonia 16:41:12 03/26/08 (3)
        In Reply to: RE: Regrettably, it is not 720p ..nt posted by late on March 24, 2008 at 14:18:08

        Your Mits IS 720p. Not the highest resolution currently available but definfitely HD compatible and much better PQ than 480p.
        
        Personally, I would wait for BD players a bit as better players will be coming down the pike very soon now that the format war is over. But you can enjoy a version of HD now if you so choose with either cable, sat or over the air.
        
        

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        • Thanks, I have Hi Def cable but the programming sucks.. I'll go Blu-Ray in a year or two .nt - late 12:22:19 03/27/08 (2)
          In Reply to: RE: But it is. posted by Harmonia on March 26, 2008 at 16:41:12

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          • Get a dish. nt - oscar 12:44:30 03/27/08 (1)
            In Reply to: RE: Thanks, I have Hi Def cable but the programming sucks.. I'll go Blu-Ray in a year or two .nt posted by late on March 27, 2008 at 12:22:19

            Cable can't compete with Satellite for HD broadcasts.
            
            

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            • I live on the wrong side of a mountain.. C'est la vie say the old folks.. nt - late 18:30:51 03/28/08 (0)
              In Reply to: RE: Get a dish. nt posted by oscar on March 27, 2008 at 12:44:30

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• You bought a new TV in 2005 and didn't even bother to check if it was HD compatible? - Jazz Inmate 22:45:06 03/23/08 (1)
  In Reply to: RE: Is there any point to getting a Blu ray for a 420p screen? posted by late on March 23, 2008 at 07:28:31

  You know, HD broadcasts won't make a difference for you either. Might be time for you to get another new TV.
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  • Back then 720p was a grand more than I had. AND, as I keep saying, it does a superb job on old stuff ..nt - late 14:20:20 03/24/08 (0)
    In Reply to: RE: You bought a new TV in 2005 and didn't even bother to check if it was HD compatible? posted by Jazz Inmate on March 23, 2008 at 22:45:06

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• Not really - Jack G 09:16:32 03/23/08 (4)
  In Reply to: RE: Is there any point to getting a Blu ray for a 420p screen? posted by late on March 23, 2008 at 07:28:31

  while the colors will be (or should be) better on BD Vs, a regular DVD, you wn't see any difference in resolution. The act of downscaling the disc may actually do damage,if your set is actually 480.
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  • Thanks, that's what I thought... On the plus side replacing bulbs in my DLP is such an expensive PIA that - late 09:45:47 03/23/08 (3)
    In Reply to: RE: Not really posted by Jack G on March 23, 2008 at 09:16:32

    that I will be replacing it in 2 or 4 years.
    
    I have to tell ya, it's not by today's standards a hot shot TV. But it suits me very well except for occasional color inaccuracy and an occasional lag in the picture.
    
    

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    • That bad? - Jack G 10:53:19 03/23/08 (2)
      In Reply to: RE: Thanks, that's what I thought... On the plus side replacing bulbs in my DLP is such an expensive PIA that posted by late on March 23, 2008 at 09:45:47

      Changing the bulb on my SXRD *shouldn't* be a big deal ( haven't done it yet), and the bulb was $250. Its been 2+ years (~5K hrs) for my set and I'm still on the original bulb. I have a back-up, but when that goes, I'll just replace the whole set. Plasma is just starting to catch up now,so they should be reasonable in a few years.
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      • changing the bulb on my JVC couldn't be easier - padreken 23:16:13 03/23/08 (0)
        In Reply to: RE: That bad? posted by Jack G on March 23, 2008 at 10:53:19

        Remove the cover, loosen the bolts, slide out the lamp assembly, slide in the new lamp, tighten the bolts and replace the cover. Took 5 minutes, tops.
        
        

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      • The bulb was about $300 and installation was about $80 (mine is hard to do ) ..nt - late 17:06:10 03/23/08 (0)
        In Reply to: RE: That bad? posted by Jack G on March 23, 2008 at 10:53:19

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• are you sure your TV is 420p? - DavidLD 08:01:45 03/23/08 (9)
  In Reply to: RE: Is there any point to getting a Blu ray for a 420p screen? posted by late on March 23, 2008 at 07:28:31

  SDTV =480i interlaced old style TV set
  Progressive scan Standard DVD 480p
  
  
  

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  • It's a couple year old Mitsu DLP, and yeah, 480p is prob the right number. Defintely not 720p .nt - late 08:28:51 03/23/08 (8)
    In Reply to: RE: are you sure your TV is 420p? posted by DavidLD on March 23, 2008 at 08:01:45

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    • your set is definitely 720p-Mits never made a "standard" def DLP - padreken 20:46:02 03/23/08 (7)
      In Reply to: RE: It's a couple year old Mitsu DLP, and yeah, 480p is prob the right number. Defintely not 720p .nt posted by late on March 23, 2008 at 08:28:51

      Every HD disc I've seen (and I have both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players) has shown a definite improvement, often dramatic, over its 480p counterpart. Upconverting is great, but it will only take you so far. However, shot on video crap will always look like shot on video crap-you can't polish a turd. The results with film are often breathtaking, though-watching the HD-DVD of Casablanca was an amazing experience. I noticed details I hadn't seen before, and I've probably watched Casablanca at least a dozen times.
      
      

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      • Checked my manual.. it says the WD-52327 does 480p and doesn't mention anything higher (nt) - late 14:24:17 03/24/08 (6)
        In Reply to: RE: your set is definitely 720p-Mits never made a "standard" def DLP posted by padreken on March 23, 2008 at 20:46:02

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        • If your TV is the WD-52327 then it definitely is 720p - DavidLD 15:29:21 03/24/08 (5)
          In Reply to: RE: Checked my manual.. it says the WD-52327 does 480p and doesn't mention anything higher (nt) posted by late on March 24, 2008 at 14:24:17

          Read the official Mitsubishi sales brochure as the pdf link below.
          1280 x 768 resolution is definitely 720p
          Brochure says its 720p
          You cant call something HD if its ED
          480p (EDTV) is 850 x 480 resolution or approximately that.
          
          

          • Official sales brochure   (Open in New Window)

          
          

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          • It says HD-Upgradeable... I wonder what that means ..nt - late 16:57:02 03/24/08 (4)
            In Reply to: RE: If your TV is the WD-52327 then it definitely is 720p posted by DavidLD on March 24, 2008 at 15:29:21

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            • It needs a digital HD Tuner - DavidLD 17:37:45 03/24/08 (3)
              In Reply to: RE: It says HD-Upgradeable... I wonder what that means ..nt posted by late on March 24, 2008 at 16:57:02

              like every other HD ready TV from that period.
              
              Not to worry. Those are $89
              
              or rent one from the cable or dish company.
              Your TV set is fine--very good in fact.
              
              

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              • Would I need one to use a Blu-ray dvd player? ..nt - late 17:43:23 03/24/08 (2)
                In Reply to: RE: It needs a digital HD Tuner posted by DavidLD on March 24, 2008 at 17:37:45

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                • Nope - DavidLD 17:52:29 03/24/08 (1)
                  In Reply to: RE: Would I need one to use a Blu-ray dvd player? ..nt posted by late on March 24, 2008 at 17:43:23

                  Nope just plug the blu ray into a set of the component video inputs.
                  
                  

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                  • Cool, I'll add that to my 'to do in a year or two' list :) ..nt - late 08:19:30 03/25/08 (0)
                    In Reply to: RE: Nope posted by DavidLD on March 24, 2008 at 17:52:29

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