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Just saw this at BestBuy, looks like a smokin' deal to me! 2 HDMI inputs, 1 Component, 1 USB, TOSLINK Output. 1080P with 600 Hz subfield, anti-glare screen. I bet this thing has a *great* picture...
I bought a Samsung 51" from Best Buy Canada today for $649 - just couldn't resist.
Edits: 11/02/14
I can't tell the difference in picture quality, but the curved screen ones look kind of neat.
I want one for my photography
You'd only stand a chance if you could get the display CALIBRATED.
My iMac display is calibrated using an inexpensive 'spyder'. I can get prints that look EXACTLY like my display. I also attach the printers profile (available from Dry Creek) and TELL 'EM I have attached the profile and just print what I give 'em. And on what printer!
IF the monitor function can be profiled and such profile stored in the computer, than head on.
Personally? I'd try to find a USED last generation Panny from the GT60 or VT60 series. The TOP Samsung may be good, too. But I don't hear that about the 'last man standing' in the form of LG.
Too much is never enough
I hunted around ( with photos in its memory) for a good source with lots of resolution but couldn't find any with more than 10 mega pixels. what I saw was very good but not particularly thrilling.
Plasma won't go past 1080 because the cell size gets too small. That's why Plasma is now history except for what will become an entry level display. In a couple years, not even THAT.
What you need to know is 'dot pitch' size for a computer monitor.
If I size / modify a photo for MONITOR use only, I do it differently than if I want to print it. All prints I do are at 300dpi. Monitor photos USED to be all sized to 72dpi.
So, and I should have been more clear, earlier, we are talking about 2 things.
1. Color space. How much of an SRGB or AdobeRGB color space can the monitor produce
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2. Resolution. Dot pitch and refresh rate.
The #1 thing most home photographers can do for themselves is CALIBRATE THEIR MONITOR.
Too much is never enough
I recently got the 64" 8500 and could not be any happier.
Well... I will take that back... I would be "even more happier" if it was 70"!
But the 8500 is the best plasma Samsung ever made, by a fair bit, and one of the best ever. Their 5300...isn't.
There are no firesales on the 8500, I'm sure somebodies are stashing them away in their garages/basements, like some did with the last Pannies and Pios.
So...cheap plasma vs a really good LCD? If it was for movie watching at night, I'd probably choose the plasma. If it involved kids and games and daytime use too, the LCD. Don't buy just because it's "cheap" or end of model line IMO, it just may not suit you. BD movie watchers do tend to prefer them though.
A cheap plasma is better than a cheap LCD. If it involves games a plasma is faster than an LCD. As people have attested here and elsewhere, the lower light output of a plasma is not even something that needs to be considered for most people, I have yet to see an unwatchable plasma because of a bright room. A plasmas viewing angle is 180 degrees, great for kids and games. People who are looking to buy a really good LCD aren't going to buy a cheap plasma.
Hey, I'm a Kuro man! You're preaching to the hellbound.
I said cheap plasma vs good LCD, not cheap vs cheap. You know what I mean. I was being polite to the LCD-likers, god help them. I have some LCDs too, but not for "serious" viewing.
My Pio calibrated at 30 ft-L burns my eyes out with a BD bright scene in a dark room, lights the whole room up. I have another ISF cal at 50 and it's way too bright, was intended for daytime viewing but I've never watched then in > 5 years. Most people are 1) not used to a calibrated picture and 2) have no idea what it should look like to start with. Dimmer, but not dim per se, is way easier on the eyes.
There is zero deterioration with plasma viewing angle here: if you can see the screen, even if lying right under the screen or standing to the side of it, it still looks right (what you can see of it). Not even remotely true for any LCD.
***There are no firesales on the 8500, I'm sure somebodies are stashing them away in their garages/basements, like some did with the last Pannies and Pios.
Actually, the prices have been coming down nicely... 3 weeks after we bought ours Amazon dropped it by $600, so we got the refund from Best Buy.
Some people are indeed talking about stashing one away... I would not do that with a $3000 TV, but I can understand the logic, if you have funds.
After all, the promise of OLED is anyone's guess - it might take 3-5 years (as I hope...), or it might take much longer.
not to mention that it's a complete waste of time to watch TV in the first place.
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I am sad to see Plasma technology go. I have a Panasonic plasma (no idea of model number) that I love. When I see non-plasma displays, they just don't look real - their image is hyped up and 'bigger than life'. It doesn't look like what I see in every day.
Since this is an audio forum, it is fair to say plasma is like analog and non-plasma is like digital.
Man, the deals just get better and better!! Price at link is $649, use this coupon code to save an extra $50: UCL144466. With FREE shipping - w00t!!
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Try making a post with some content once in a while...
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What,the picture isn't enough?
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If you hot-linked it, it may have "moved".
...I still have the 52" Samsung LCD 7 Series I bought in 2008.
It looks great and people marvel at the picture quality.
At least 2 friends went out and bought the same model.
Of course I paid around $2,200 for it 7 years ago and it does have an internet connection.
I don't see what all the hoopla is over plasma technology, which Panasonic has deemed a dead-end and discontinued the line. My 24 inch monitor seems to be doing alright, but, of course, it was a $500.00 monitor in it's time.
Still, seems like a good deal. I think the plasma's are mostly unpopular because of their thickness and, of course, ultimately because of their power consumption.
All one needs to do is to directly compare any LCD/LED right next to plasma playing the same source. No going back.
of the demise of plasma displays cost to produce, ship, and its power consumption. You won't find many, if any, quality plasma owners buying LCD/LED displays. Why is that?
the death-blow was/is 4k. Plasma would've died eventually due to the things you listed, but 4k brought things to a head PDQ.
That Samsung is only 4: thick and it's Energy Star rated to use only $18/yr. in electricity - not too shabby, methinks!
Better blacks than LCD/LED. My Mom just sprang for a 43" Samsung plasma and it has a terrific picture - very film like. True, they are not razor thin like the LCDs/LEDs, but hers is only a few inches thick, maybe 3-4 inches - no big deal, IMHO.
That 60" Samsung I linked would seem to be a very good buy if you're looking for a larger screen plasma...
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And the weighting towards the front made it almost unliftable.
Now that's a BIG monitor...
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My Samsung 43" plasma was $449 in 2009 and what a f-ing noise maker that thing is! Just horrible.
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My LG 42 inch plasma which I bought in 2006 still has a gorgeous picture. I wish It didn't as I want a 55 inch TV.
The 5300 series is the bottom of the 60"+ category. If you don't need "smart TV" features like Wi-Fi, it should be worth the $800 price tag. I can't comment on the picture, but my Sammy 8500 is fabulous, just a touch below my Panasonic.
Not specific to Samsung, of course. Can be checked at BestBuy, if they have it on display.
If you were sensitive to old CRT monitors flickering at 60 Hz - very good chance that plasma TV is not for you.
At some frequency most of your posts flicker.
... stink - badly.
says 600 hz: no issue there unless it was a typo. Older Sam sung were not the greatest picture, though, Adding a PLC helps significantly
Google "Plasma flicker 600 Hz" - there are (rather wordy) explanations why 600 Hz is NOT an actual refresh rate, and why people sensitive to flickering can see it on plasma TV.
Carcass thanks for mentioning that. I have serious problems with the effects of flicker. I was thinking of buying one of those cheap plasmas like the ones in this thread, but your post reminded me of why I ended up returning previous plasma tv's I owned. What a drag not be able to enjoy those natural and beautiful plasma pictures because the brain and your eyes can't process the images in a comfortable manner. That's been my problem for years. I tried something like 12 different lcd, and plasma tv's because of the discomfort I experience. Even tried about 4 different cable providers. Still experience some problems watching tv.
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