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Re: hard not to comment art/film without considering sociaty in general......

Victor, you say "anytime art tries to carry political message it fails in the artistic department."

What about Griffith's "Intolerance", Eisenstein's "Potemkin", Dohzhenko's "Earth", Reifenstahl's "Triumph of the Will", Ford's "The Grapes of Wrath", or Godard's "Weekend"?

Picasso's painting of "Guernica"?

I recall several days ago you discussed "Alexander Nevsky," a film about a Russian leader defeating a German army made in 1938. You do not think there is a political message there? Or if you think there is a political message there does it make the film an artistic failure in your opinion?

I am a little surprised by your statement. Michael Moore's film may be bad or good due to the way he handles his political statement. But just because he has a political message in there you believe it is a failure? Without even seeing it?

Melville's book "Moby Dick, or The Whale" has problems, but I don't consider it an artistic failure because of his pointed criticism of Christian missionairies. I can't watch 99% of Godard's post-68 work because of the way he handles his political messages in the work, but it isn't the presence of his political message that I specifically object to.

I realize you were just responding to another poster with a brief note. But the last sentence of that note is quite a statement, and I would appreciate it if you would clarify or elaborate on it if you don't mind.

Thanks!

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