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In Reply to: Not comperable posted by Jack G on January 5, 2008 at 06:45:17:
Prices are high at the outset and then come down. That's the nature of technology. I never suggested that every other market parameter was identical, but to ignore the obvious fact that prices on new technologies are high upon introduction and gradually fall is pure idiocy. Blaming a new technology for high prices is like blaming a baby for its inability to walk. As for that, prices are falling quickly as we're seeing with some announcements at CES this morning. More quickly than SACD, which had a $5000 flagship player and $24 media.
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Follow Ups Full ThreadTopic - Associated Press reporting that Warner will announce it is Blu-ray exclusive - Jazz Inmate 12:52:25 01/04/08 (98)
- they need to switch other formats - Joe Murphy Jr 23:56:45 01/04/08 (2)
- I hope warner will optimize their BD releases now that they aren't worried about HD DVD - Jazz Inmate 14:29:18 01/05/08 (1)
- one studio already has - Joe Murphy Jr 18:01:35 01/05/08 (0)
- And here's WB's official press release... - Russell 13:15:18 01/04/08 (82)
- RE: And here's WB's official press release... - racerguy 13:21:50 01/04/08 (81)
- No, its basically over - Jack G 13:33:11 01/04/08 (77)
- Don't worry, the heat is still on Sony - 4season 20:46:27 01/04/08 (19)
- Its not a question of knocking socks off - Jack G 06:24:07 01/05/08 (7)
- Perceived value means "knocking their socks off" - 4season 08:05:15 01/05/08 (5)
- Sad to say I don't think the era of firmware updates is over. - oscar 08:46:05 01/05/08 (3)
- Fox and BD+ - Jack G 08:57:55 01/05/08 (2)
- Crap... "Sunshine" was on my list. I'd better wait for the fallout. - oscar 09:10:43 01/05/08 (1)
- I ordered it, so I'll keep you posted. (nt) - Jack G 11:50:32 01/05/08 (0)
- RE: Perceived value means "knocking their socks off" - Jack G 08:39:07 01/05/08 (0)
- Prices will remain higher for a while with the pressure from HD DVD removed. - oscar 07:32:08 01/05/08 (0)
- I have to agree Blu-ray has to show value-added compared to DVD. - oscar 20:54:23 01/04/08 (10)
- the audiophile/videophile's dream - Joe Murphy Jr 22:37:58 01/04/08 (9)
- PQ/SQ was the biggest reason I became a blu-ray fan. - oscar 07:26:55 01/05/08 (0)
- RE: the audiophile/videophile's dream - Jack G 06:16:48 01/05/08 (7)
- as of today, it's over 50% - Joe Murphy Jr 18:21:13 01/05/08 (6)
- I'm familiar with the stat sites - Jack G 07:56:17 01/06/08 (5)
- answer your question - Joe Murphy Jr 08:28:26 01/06/08 (4)
- RE: answer your question - Jack G 10:02:01 01/06/08 (3)
- don't quite understand - Joe Murphy Jr 13:37:39 01/06/08 (2)
- RE: don't quite understand - Jack G 14:36:11 01/06/08 (1)
- it's there if needed - Joe Murphy Jr 03:58:44 01/07/08 (0)
- RE: No, its basically over - Duilawyer 20:15:05 01/04/08 (4)
- RE: No, its basically over - usafwso 21:46:29 01/04/08 (2)
- Agreed - Jack G 06:33:13 01/05/08 (0)
- Universal released quite a few interesting titles already. - oscar 05:39:41 01/05/08 (0)
- I wouldn't worry too much... - oscar 20:29:18 01/04/08 (0)
- With only one hi-def format, we'll probably see BTGO . . . - townsend 15:43:14 01/04/08 (11)
- I fell victim to the BOGO bug again - per Amazon. - oscar 17:54:42 01/04/08 (1)
- RE: I fell victim to the BOGO bug again - per Amazon. - Ole Lund Christensen 04:07:13 01/05/08 (0)
- "I fear that Sony's monopoly on hi-def, should it play out that way, could be costlier to consumers." Exactly. - Audiophilander 16:12:30 01/04/08 (8)
- Worse than that... - Jack G 12:04:02 01/05/08 (0)
- The price of Blu-ray players will steadily drop as a result of CE manufacturer competition... - oscar 17:49:08 01/04/08 (0)
- RE: "I fear that Sony's monopoly on hi-def, should it play out that way, could be costlier to consumers." Exac - usafwso 16:53:56 01/04/08 (5)
- one format is the key... - Joe Murphy Jr 22:15:43 01/04/08 (0)
- One reason to resolve the format war is to encourage "High end" companies to participate... - oscar 17:45:02 01/04/08 (1)
- should have read your post first... - Joe Murphy Jr 22:47:52 01/04/08 (0)
- I know Denon might not be considered "high" end, but - townsend 16:57:59 01/04/08 (1)
- With Video Denon ARE definitely high-end. - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 10:40:49 01/05/08 (0)
- Yes - Ole Lund Christensen 15:04:58 01/04/08 (39)
- Doubtfull - Jack G 15:54:05 01/04/08 (6)
- RE: Doubtfull - Ole Lund Christensen 16:02:22 01/04/08 (5)
- RE: Doubtfull - Jack G 16:13:22 01/04/08 (4)
- Players are $400 and discs are $20...that's the same as when DVD was introduced in the '90s - Jazz Inmate 16:40:22 01/04/08 (3)
- Not comperable - Jack G 06:45:17 01/05/08 (2)
- It's comparable with DVD, SACD, CD--any new digital technology - Jazz Inmate 09:15:11 01/07/08 (0)
- Exactly - BluRay is competing with DVD, not HD-DVD.. - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 10:49:00 01/05/08 (0)
- "I think Toshiba will release Paramount from the contract..." - Idle speculation?!?!? - Audiophilander 15:26:02 01/04/08 (31)
- He should be spending his time fixing VISTA. - GTF 16:38:14 01/04/08 (0)
- RE: "I think Toshiba will release Paramount from the contract..." - Idle speculation?!?!? - Ole Lund Christensen 15:47:25 01/04/08 (2)
- You are still speculating. - Audiophilander 16:02:02 01/04/08 (1)
- RE: You are still speculating. - Ole Lund Christensen 16:07:45 01/04/08 (0)
- MS cares more about downloadable video than optical formats - Jazz Inmate 15:33:24 01/04/08 (26)
- Stop worrying, it is over. - Ole Lund Christensen 15:58:01 01/04/08 (11)
- RE: Stop worrying, it is over. - Jack G 16:01:03 01/04/08 (10)
- Ya gotta admit the Spiderman 3 disk which came in the box with the $400 PS3s probably got played.... nt - oscar 19:05:07 01/04/08 (1)
- But did they know what it was? - Jack G 15:37:16 01/05/08 (0)
- RE: Stop worrying, it is over. - Ole Lund Christensen 16:05:38 01/04/08 (7)
- I'll take that as a "no" (nt) - Jack G 16:20:25 01/04/08 (6)
- I will let you do the google, but oscar have put it so nicely - Ole Lund Christensen 02:51:55 01/05/08 (5)
- RE: I will let you do the google, but oscar have put it so nicely - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 10:58:37 01/05/08 (4)
- OK, for you I will do that google. Here are the numbers - Ole Lund Christensen 13:31:19 01/05/08 (3)
- Ole - would you accept figures from a HD-DVD adoption survey? - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 14:34:12 01/05/08 (2)
- RE: Ole - would you accept figures from a HD-DVD adoption survey? - Jack G 15:35:16 01/05/08 (1)
- RE: Ole - would you accept figures from a HD-DVD adoption survey? - chris.redmond2@bushinternet.com 17:10:09 01/05/08 (0)
- "That still could happen if enough people like you are out there." - I'm a collector, not a pompom carrier. - Audiophilander 15:54:49 01/04/08 (13)
- A doorstop collector? A paperweight collector? You still don't have one blu-ray machine or disc NT - Jazz Inmate 16:04:27 01/04/08 (12)
- No need to be childish - Jack G 16:18:08 01/04/08 (10)
- he picked the wrong format to collect and then pronounces himself a "collector" - Jazz Inmate 16:48:37 01/04/08 (9)
- He bought for the titles - Jack G 06:51:31 01/05/08 (1)
- Not true, he likes plenty of BD titles - Jazz Inmate 11:48:41 01/05/08 (0)
- There is no "wrong format", only choices and films that folks WANT to collect. - Audiophilander 00:50:09 01/05/08 (4)
- I want to see 1080p presentations of my favorite films as much as you do - Jazz Inmate 11:36:44 01/05/08 (3)
- "You easily could have survived doing the same if you wanted to be a savvy consumer." - Pssst, ... - Audiophilander 13:21:07 01/05/08 (2)
- RE: "You easily could have survived doing the same if you wanted to be a savvy consumer." - Pssst, ... - Jazz Inmate 13:57:18 01/05/08 (1)
- "...that's why we're on the bleeding edge." - Ummm, you went over that edge some time ago. - Audiophilander 22:39:24 01/05/08 (0)
- To be fair, there is a "cost" associated with Blu-ray players... - oscar 18:35:29 01/04/08 (1)
- Hey, if you find comic books stimulating, by all means go for it. (nt) - Jack G 08:41:21 01/05/08 (0)
- "A doorstop collector? A paperweight collector? You still don't have one blu-ray machine or disc" - Are you... - Audiophilander 16:16:01 01/04/08 (0)
- Add Warner to Sony, Fox, and Disney; HD DVD is in big trouble. - oscar 13:28:06 01/04/08 (2)
- Most likely they will cancel that press conference - Ole Lund Christensen 02:44:48 01/05/08 (1)
- Yep... they cancelled a 2 hour press conference - oscar 09:03:08 01/05/08 (0)
- RE: Associated Press reporting that Warner will announce it is Blu-ray exclusive - oscar 13:10:29 01/04/08 (0)
- Make that Reuters, not AP (nt) - Jazz Inmate 12:57:02 01/04/08 (10)
- I was just going to post that :-( - Jack G 13:10:49 01/04/08 (9)
- Where JI is concerned I think that the spelling is "Rooters", but for better or worse Warners has taken sides. - Audiophilander 15:21:40 01/04/08 (8)
- "Personally, I think that this was a poor business decision....." - oscar 19:20:55 01/04/08 (5)
- A fair assessment for sure, but he misses one important fact: - Audiophilander 01:44:59 01/05/08 (4)
- I believe the CE manufacturers understand the pricing issues. - oscar 06:01:56 01/05/08 (3)
- "There are quite a few PS3 owners who use it strictly for movie watching." - I'd like to see actual figures. - Audiophilander 12:21:58 01/05/08 (2)
- About 80% use PS3 for movies - Ole Lund Christensen 15:04:22 01/05/08 (1)
- Well I'll take the article at face value, but that number seems conspicuously high. - Audiophilander 22:48:04 01/05/08 (0)
- happy blu year, auph NT - Jazz Inmate 15:36:15 01/04/08 (1)
- LOL (nt) - Jack G 15:37:52 01/04/08 (0)
Follow Ups
- It's comparable with DVD, SACD, CD--any new digital technology - Jazz Inmate 09:15:11 01/07/08 (0)
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