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RE: Not so interesting blu audio poll

Posted by cfraser (A) on May 20, 2009 at 07:51:20

In Reply to: Not so interesting blu audio poll posted by Jack G on May 20, 2009 at 04:28:44:

No, people aren't "letting them get away with it". The problem is, that just as the majority of people (not necessarily BD users) couldn't care less about lossless audio, the majority want their BDs' video to look like modern animation: no grain. And others want their hi-def home video to look even more like film, so that the grain structure looks even finer. I'm sure you're aware of this conflict of opinions. There is no excuse for EE with a hi-def transfer.

There is no doubt there's a lot of crap video transfers on BD. It's just a medium, they can put anything at all on it. And they are...

I'm kind of surprised somebody in an audio forum wouldn't be all over the audio aspect though. This is also pretty divisive. Many insist there is no audible difference between lossless DTS-HD MA and the full-bitrate lossy core. I couldn't really tell the diff the few times I tried, maybe if I tried really hard...but I can do lossless, so why wouldn't I. Funny thing is, the 1.5Mbps DTS (lossy) used to be sometimes used on DVDs years ago. So now we've got it back on BD for those who can't do lossless. Totally different when it comes to Dolby TrueHD though, which doesn't have a lossy core, so they have to add a separate (often hidden) lossy track. And use more disc space for that.

And using up "unavailable" disc space is the excuse WB used for not including lossless audio on BD, at the same time they were being pilloried for some of their BD releases' atrociously DNR'ed video (several months ago). Maybe if they had used DTS they would have had enough disc space for lossless, but they won't use DTS. The lack of disc space argument didn't hold water regardless, and they insulted a lot of people by using it. A simple "we goofed" would have maintained more respect. They had a lot of respect in the DVD community for their treatment of catalog titles.

Edit: Oh yeah, forgot to mention that *some* studios say they have to remove grain because encoding grain uses up "excessive" disc space, you know, capturing all that fine grain detail.

Edits: 05/20/09

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