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In Reply to: 70 style porn vs current porn posted by Heidi2000 on November 17, 2004 at 11:24:25:
Both the men and the women are overall much better looking today. Porn has become so mainstream that there's no shortage of either sex willing to get into the business.There are a lot fewer attempts to actually film movies with any kind of plot these days. Which is just as well, as the acting today is no better, or even worse than it was 20+ years ago.
Yeah, it was much hairier in the old days, too.
The two biggest differences, though, are
a) The sex acts now commonly being filmed. Back in the day you only heard rumors of these things being filmed in Europe or Asia, but now you have 18 year old American beauties from Kansas doing some pretty nasty stuff.
b) The whole genre of "guy with camera" enticing "girl next door" to do porn. Not sure, but it probably started with Ed Powers. Ugliest damned slob that you never wanted to see on camera. The emergence of the Internet has taken that entire theme and multiplied it 1000 fold. Honestly makes you wonder if there are any women under 25 left in this country that _haven't_ had sex on camera.
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Good points. The idea of the guy with camera enticing the girl next door to do porn can probably attributable to the idea of producing a video that is natural or innocent (which in most case is what everyone likes, or what it should be). This leads back to my original question.You see, when one had sex with his/her partner, unless the partner is in the porn business, she is probably un-shaved in the bottom, and in most case without silicone implants. The couple probably does it without condoms as well. This is natural. This is exactly what the 70's style porn portraits.
Whilst in almost all modern porn’s you will see a plethora of silicone implant, tattoos, Shaved bottom, condoms, body piecing etc. This is not natural. I don't know about you, but I think the industry tries to promote this in order to make money on cosmetics not because they think the viewing public want to see all those things.
"I think the industry tries to promote this in order to make money on cosmetics"Are you seriously suggesting the multi-billion dollar porn industry is just a front organization to promote cosmetologists?
C'mon, this is all purely Darwinian. They put out hundreds of movies and the ones that sell the most generate further similar copies.
The "enhancements" are there because consumers buy them. If you want to see hairy people, that's probably not hard to find, everything is out there somewhere. But if that is what sold, it would all be hairy people.
...for the past 10 years, this has become part of the younger generation.> Whilst in almost all modern porn’s you will see a plethora of silicone implant, tattoos, Shaved bottom, condoms, body piecing etc. This is not natural. I don't know about you, but I think the industry tries to promote this in order to make money on cosmetics not because they think the viewing public want to see all those things.>
What's natural is what you're used to seeing everyday. They're appealing to a younger generation. The older generation is more comfortable with the '70s stuff because that's what they can relate to.
> > > What's natural is what you're used to seeing everyday < < <Sorry, I cannot agree to that statement as I don't consider seeing completely naked men and women everyday to be natural (unless you live near a beach). That said, most of us wear cloth, and don't usually expose our private parts in public and there is no need to shave the bottom every day like the way we shave our leg and beard etc. I dare anyone to do an experiment and randomly select a few colleagues in the company you worked for and see if any of them is shaved down below. I bet there aren't many. Thus, unshaved is still considered normal in light of this experiment.
You did answer my question though, that is current porn viewers tend to like watching different stuff than what it used to be.
. . . lifestyle marketing, IMHO.Especially gay porn. The designer clothes, the fake tans, the gym and protein supplement muscles, the houses on the beach, the posh cars, the parties. Perfection has a big, big price tag. A lot of gay porn is essentially a commercial. Straight porn isn't quite as bad yet, but it's getting there. And personally, I find marketing-centric porn of any persuasion pretty boring.
If you read Savage Love or other sex advice columns targeting young people, it becomes pretty obvious that young people today (1) watch a lot of current porn, (2) think that real people should look and act like today's porn stars, and (3) suffer from a lot of sexual anxiety and self-image problems because they or their partners don't measure up to current porn standards. People my age (I'm 39) seem to be able to watch porn and enjoy having sex with normal people (not always simultaneously!), but I think the younger generation is having some trouble recognizing the difference between fantasy and reality. Maybe they'll wise up eventually.
Jeffery
Assuming your observations are valid, which I think they are, then the porn viewers (particular younger porn viewers) are being exploited by various marketing companies to the fullest. For example, why should they pay money to buy the porn’s and then being exposed to various marketing tools subconsciously without even know it. Some of the disgusting subconsciously marketed ideas are obviously body piercing, body building, designer cloths, pubic hair trimming, shaving in the lower anatomy etc.Classic porn such as the Swedish Erotica series, Taboo, Aunt peg, etc don't have any of these marketing hype subconsciously build into it. Just good old porn.
Sorry for the late reply. Thanks for the fantastic answer. I think you hit it on the nose about the life style marketing tactic. LOL ! Even I failed to see that in the beginning.Yes, its very sad that we can just sitting down and watch some quality porn, like Aunt Peg, etc, without getting polluted with all the marketing hype.
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