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Hey, I've been a hard core movie goer, from way back. I'm mad as hell, and I ain't going to take it anymore. The smell, the dirt, the talking people, the hair and hats of people in front of me, the seats, the trailers, the COMMERCIALS (that's the straw that broke the camel's back, for me) and the travel time to and from, having to get to the theatre ridiculously early to get a seat, and have to listen to the background crap music. Now, it's my wife and I, 8 feet in front of our 46" DPL with the 2 channel stereo deal, (definitely a big picture feel from that distance), sitting in my pjs munching on some Ben and Jerrys, being able to pause for a shit or piss, and the development of a lovely relationship with NetFlix: this is movie niravana for me. Cons: may have to wait a year to catch a movie. 'tis worth the wait.....peace, warren
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just off Rittenhouse Sq. where the "locals" bring their kids, despite the movies ending at 11:00 pm, or even later, and they also bring their brown bag and drink 40's during the movie. With their kids. They scold the kids out loud during the movie.I don't go there anymore.
Sincerely,beanz
Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese
with the little ones at theater (no time to shower) I was showing off the new hat my kids gave me early for Xmas, and as I was talking to the people next to me about how bad the seats were, during the trailers, and the background crap music, the guy behind me gets all pissed off!
Not really.
I went to see "Flight of the Phoenix" today and I was the only one in the theater. I hate crowds; I typically go to see films because of the visual impact and evaluate the suitability for DVD purchase (of course, a decent plot helps). It's also useful to evaluate the PQ in the theater against the PQ I get in the home.
Early matinees are NOT better. Maybe in the boon docks, but not in the NY metro area. You think you're the only one who has the brainy idea to go to the first half price showing and beat the crowds? Yes indeed, I love 35mm over my DLP. The means, in this case, do not justify the ends. Too much to rationlize for a good print. Ambience? The best and loudest ambience I ever heard was when A Hard Days Night opened. That was ambience...couldn't hear a thing until years later when I saw the movie on TV. Man, I could go on about the negatives, but there just isn't any movie worth the pain in the ass. Sure, on vacation, or the like, I'll hit some movies with my wife. It's just not going to be an evening or afternoon activity back at the ranch. Tinear how can you be an isolationist while you're watching a movie with the one you love? In this case my best buddy in the world: my wife. You're saying it's my hand? That's like saying, "I live alone with my mother." There's a paradox for ya. I'm grooving with my new home audio system. Just watched On the Waterfront, and tonight it's Run Lola Run. Now there's a soundtrack for ya. Will show off a nice audio system and make that movie....a happy one to all. peace, warren
The only theater I have gone to in many years is the Ritz in Phily. Normally there would be five or ten people in the room, orderly and clean.You just have to know what you are after.
The movie theater I go to in our area is called Cineplex Odeon which comprised of about 10 theaters inside that has a 40’x 20’ (approx.) wide screen on most of them. The sound is excellent together with ample sittings.Don’t get me wrong I do have a 100” wide screen with LCD projector in my HT room of which I thoroughly enjoy and a Toshiba 57” High Def RPTV in my living room of which my kids uses for Xbox games and movie viewing. However, nothing can beat the ambience you get when you go to a real movie theater. Of course YMMV.
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As a filmmaker myself (of documentaries), with my first theatrical doc now making the rounds, I find this an interesting discussion. Although, as a filmmaker nothing beats watching people watch your film in a large group in a real theater, I've also concluded that generally I prefer watching at home on DV. That sentiment arose almost immediately upon buying my first DVD player. AND, I don't even have a big screen TV! In the living room there's the first set up, with a Sony 24" halfway across the room. I hardly use that for DVDs, since it's so nice to use the 13" TV in the bedroom right next to the bed, and listen with headphones. My boss has a theater-room at his house and if I had a setup like that I suppose that would be ideal, but for all the reasons mentioned there's nothing more pleasant than home-viewing movies.But...I would not want to be without the occasional experience of watching a movie on a big, public screen.
eb
of course and the DVD/video scene has many advantages. Convenience and selection. And the picture can be very nice, I have a friend with a big screen LCD and it seems fully satisfying. However...film is just much more detailed and richer in obvious ways. Saw House of Flying Daggers the other day, kind of slow, but beautifully photographed, sumptuous visuals. You can see the tiny details of the patterns in the clothes, in the autumn landscape colors. The fine details simply do not exist on DVD, it is too coarse. If an HDTV format comes along, that will come closer. Whether it is the details of the visuals, the darkness, the lack of a running timer, I am able to get far more involved in a movie in a theater than in a home. It is well worth the admitted hassle to me. All you say is true, inconsiderate people, endless advertising, lousy sound, etc. But when the movie starts and you settle in, it is far better than video.
> > > You can see the tiny details of the patterns in the clothes, in the autumn landscape colors. The fine details simply do not exist on DVD, it is too coarse. < < <
I don't think so. Have you seen the disc on a decent home system? I saw it before it ever came to theaters here. Fine details don't exist on the disc? Bulls##t. Shoebox multiplexes have nothing on a good home system.
As you say, to each his own.
Jack
Have not seen this DVD. OTOH, have you actually seen the 35 mm print? Why not give it a try? Resolution of DVD vs. 35 mm. film is not a matter of opinion, it is fact. While it is true that this advantage could be destroyed by a severely out of focus projection, that is in my experience very rare.
Its not playing near me so comparisons are moot.> > > Resolution of DVD vs. 35 mm. film is not a matter of opinion, it is fact < < <
Perhaps, but like everything else,theory and reality are not always the same. Prints shown in theaters are not always pristine. I've been to my share of subpar showings. Ever been to a theater and have the projector screw up or have someone forget to change reels? I stand by my comments. IMO, the advantages are not always there, and its just not worth the hassle.
Jack
***or have someone forget to change reelsHmmmm.... no one changes reels. The whole movie is spliced together onto one "reel". You are what - 110 years old?
The last time I went to a theater. It was LOTR, long before the intermission, the film went blank for quite a while, than started again. If that wasn't a reel change, than there was a major problem. For that I paid $8.50 a pop???
Lets face it folks, theaters are not what they used to be. They are smaller, less comfortable, there are fewer *good* seats, and in some cases the screans are smaller. I guess they make up for this by the ever increasing prices.
Jack
Apparently some sort of a malfunction. Maybe a splice broke.Some theaters are actually pretty good, like the 16-screener here, but the problem is the whole building is one huge popcorn factory, with noisy teenagers and videogames everywhere, smell and comotion, the atmosphere certainly not conducive to viewing some good work.
Shame, as there are some really nice rooms there... as far as I recall... having visited it last time maybe five years ago.
> > > Maybe a splice broke < < <
Quite possible, though it shouldn't have been spliced in the first place for a new movie.I used to go to the theaters quite regularly. Unfortunately, as you pointed out, the atmosphere is not really conducive for serious viewing.
I don't want to bore everyone with technicalities, but here is how it works, to the best of my understanding.The films get delivered to the movie houses from a distributor on several 20 minutes reels - you all have seen those in their octogonal cans.
At the theater they are all spliced together into one piece, and put on a special carousel type device, so they could be shown in one shot, without changing reels.
When the theater is done with the movie, it is cut again into the 20 minute parts, each one packed in its own can and sent back to the distributor.
Perhaps Chris Garrett will clarify that for us, but this is what I was told by a projectionist who runs the "home theater" system for one well known billionaire whose name you would recognize instantly. That home theater installation (which I visited) included two real 35mm projectors in addition to your obligatory digital video one. So there a person actually does switch between the two projectors - he has a control panel for that near his window.
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Sometimes a get together ,Margaritas,wine,beer,comfort goodies handy. An occasional half-time break to discuss 'events so far' or 'what do you think about this-n-that'. Instant replays if called for.
Chance to arrange ,perfect double features,original vs remake,fright nights or Trilogy marathon.
Sincerely,beanz
Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese
While I enjoy the big screen and the communal experience (and attend mostly matinees since I am retired) I have to agree that watching a well transferred DVD or laseridsc at home on a calibrated display with state of the art sound (Magnepan all around for me) has many advantages. In addition to the creature comforts you mention, one can rerun a passage if you missed a line, start the film whenever you want, adjust the volume as necessary, etc. With 1500 movies in my collection plus a very enlightened public library which stocks recent and classic films on DVD in their correct aspect ratios, I am truly in paradise.
I'll agree with you there! I haven't gone to a theater in years... many reasons... travel is a hassle, the sound levels are usually so high that they actually hurt my ears, I hate the selection of munchies sold at concession stands (no, I don't eat popcorn nor do I care for the soft drinks they sell), then there is the talking, the kids and the whole mess. Not to mention that most of the films I like rarely show up at theaters around here (mostly classics like Dr Strangelove and Asian cinema... oh god "subtitles!")I'm quite content to plop down on the floor in front of my 48" widescreen, also surrounded by maggies, with a bowl of oatmeal or box of cheerios and some hot tea (in fact, I may be becoming quite set in my ways ^-^)
but I get the impression you just wanted to brag on your new system a bit. The difference between seeing films in a theater and at home is similar to that between shared sex and masturbation. Oh well, just guess you're just another guy who enjoys his isolation.
Generally that is true - all else being equal the theater experience is far better. When you can get it.
Brag about my system? give me a break. that was a bit mean spirited. Isolationist? give me another break. Going to the movies is a social thing? Real sociable. You sit there and watch a movie for two hours and do not talk to your partner or friends. Well, then, maybe you do. That's just the reason I don't want to go anymore. Having a bad day? peace, warren
I think a movie at home, sometimes with a few friends, is immensely more enjoyable than at the theatres. Better sound, no line ups (hate line ups), all the comfort of home, no irritating people, stop the movie when one feels like it for a break, skip the commercials, no parking, driving..... no thanks. Seen two movies in the theatre in the last five years. Star Wars; it was fine. Swordfish; horrible movie to me so a complete waste of time. At least at home I could have just stopped it and watched something else. After driving to the theatres, getting snacks and all we just stayed.
A movie at home with a loved one tends to be far more enjoyable than at the theater. You have a better selection, better sound(and better volume), better munchies, less distractions, less hassles etc.
For someone who tends to watch non-mainstream movies, watching at home is almost mandatory. IMO, its rarely worth going to the theaters any more.
Jack
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