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So, Schindler's List....high budget guilt trip?

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In Reply to: Hotel Rwanda: Low budget international guilt trip posted by mr grits on February 6, 2005 at 08:03:54:

Just curious if you're consistent.

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Two politically incorrect facts - Auricle 09:18:10 02/07/05 (0)
Grits:
Stalin killed more Jews in the pogroms and purges than Hitler. I've seen very little about that in the press or in art. Some deaths may have been incidental to Stalin's destruction of the intelegentsia, but I doubt it. Stalin's death toll, by starvation, penury or direct execution was in excess of 20 million. Whether his direct exterminations of Jews was equal to Hitler's is a subject of some debate, but the death toll is likely higher.
Tinear:
However, the tribal idiocy in Rwanda is nothing to the Malaria deaths created in Africa by the environmentalist movement. Still rising like a meteor, the total of deaths directly attributable to the restriction of DDT in the third world is (as of a few minutes ago) 88,097,989 . But then, even if Rachael Carson's faulty analysis of the damage to eagle eggs caused by DDT were true (very, very doubtful and not supported by the data) I would sacrifice the eagles to save that many lives. But, of course, eagles are important to the Upper East Side cocktail set. Africans and Asians do not seem to be. I must say however, that there has been a softening of heart regarding DDT after the Tsunami. I was overjoyed to see it.
To both:
Mao makes Stalin and Hitler look like amateurs. But few of his victims are Jews or black. Still, with only mild risability, one might say that the Politically Correct Greens have committed the greatest genocide of the modern world. But, as the cry always goes, "We didn't mean it! It's not our fault!" You may provide the appropriate whine yourselves.
I thought SL was truly a very important film that should be seen . . . - mr grits 16:02:07 02/06/05 (4)
by eveyone. Someone here critized that point of view because it was so smary. Well, when the dvd became available, I saw it for the fist time in many years and now I have to agree that SL is wrought with emotional smarm that comes close to invalidating the message. SL certainly has merit but it does not stand as the icon I once thought. Unfortunately, memory is never close to 100%.
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- My point is that you seem to have zero caring for - tinear 05:04:56 02/07/05 (3)
  black tragedies but you are ready to throw open your arms to the Jewish one which occurred more than a half-century ago.
  Today, black people are still being massacred---instead of guilt, do you think the film makers just might wish to help stop this and other tragedies in Africa?--in numbers far greater than any others.
  Guilt? How about a bit of human empathy/sympathy?
  - Your conclusions are incorrect . . . - mr grits 08:10:45 02/07/05 (2)
    I'm not a big fan of genocide no matter how much the human race has made it a global past time. The motives of the work balanced against artistic effort is what I have complaints about concerning both films. Being Anglo-Saxon doesn't make me a racist monster right out of the chute.
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    - At any rate, everything I've read about the film says it goes - tinear 18:00:44 02/07/05 (1)
      out of its way NOT to be an emotional rollercoaster and that Cheadle's performance is very understated.
      You seemed to imply you knew the motivations of the producers of this film by accusing them of manufacturing "guilt."
      - There's no substitute for seeing it. Nolte's monologue is way over the top . . . I feel guilty thinking about it. - mr grits 18:53:13 02/07/05 (0)
        
        In Reply to: At any rate, everything I've read about the film says it goes posted by tinear on February 7, 2005 at 18:00:44:
        
        Actually, I'm not to deep into guilt. 8^)
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        Be right there, Mom.

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