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In Reply to: Red Violin - take two posted by Victor Khomenko on February 12, 2005 at 19:58:06:
Victor,Since "the Red Violin" came up, I had a chance to see parts again. I had last seen it in the original release.
And I have to say, I enjoyed it quite a bit more than the first viewing. I suppose knowing the sequence of vignettes in advnace helped it hold together a bit better. Really, the several period atmospheres were well depicted and despite the melodrama, there are some effective scenes. And yes, Clark is right about the Chinese Revolution scenes- the best, most real period piece.
I've had difficulty with music related movies as most involve a real historical figure, and the history is almost always distorted to suit some theme. Mozart was made a drooling buffoon under the thumb of Salieri in "Amadeus" and while I enjoyed the play- with Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker!) it was the kind of supsension of disbelief that theatres offer that made it palatable. I enjoyed Formans' treamtne as entertainment, But I had to pretend the clown jumping around was not Mozart, but a "generic" 18th C. composer. "Too many notes!"
The Ken Russell treatments like "Lisztomania" are actually easier to take in some ways as they are so over the top, you can treat them as surreal and not biography. If you haven't seen Russell's short movie about Bruckner -focussing on his counting compulsion -it's probably his best. His Elgar and "The Secret life of Arnold Bax" are also in the same, quiet mode.
Other musical niceties: I liked very much "Tout les Matins du Monde" about old Marin Marais and his gamba. and that's in spite of Depardieu, who for some reason I've always disliked- and I don't exactly why.
Also, "32 Short Films about Glenn Gould" . This is intentionally episodic, but rings very true. I had read Friedrich's biography of Gould and followed his career a long time and "32" works well for me. Colm Feore is amazingly good. The eccentric humour matches the subject very well.
And for pure entertainment, Rex Harrison in "Unfaithfully Yours" is a lot of fun- the music driving his fantasy life and feeding back to make great conducting.
Never saw "Hilary and Jackie" about poor J. DuPre. I don't think I could face that tragedy in motion- and I so loath the real Barenboim I can't watch a depiction of him either.
Do you have any favourtites in this genre?
Cheers,Bam
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Does Diva count?
What about Run Lola Run?I saw Russell' Aria, but it was a bit dense, surreal, perhaps. I will have to try it again.
I have always liked "The Cotton Club" despite its drubbing by the critics.
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Dave-A,Yes, certainly "Diva" counts as the whole thing centres around the pirated tape and the main character's obsession with the singer.
And very nicely done too.
I liked the detail of the museum of crashed luxury cars in the fellow's loft as a foil for the refined world of opera.
Cheers,
Sure... the Music Teacher is a fine movie and easily all time favorite, and one day clark presented me with a copy of Mozart Brothers - also great!Il Quartetto Basileus is among them, and who would forget Fellini's Prova d'Orchestra?
There have been others, they are just escaping me now.
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Victor,I'm a big fan of "The Music Teacher" too.
As I thought about the subject, there ceme a flood of musically related movies, and I began to think this is a much more common genre than it appears. The only rival would have to be movies concerning the theft of nuclear weapons. There's also the whole world of rockumentaries, Beatles' movies, "Spinal Tap", and jazz movies. I haven't seen "Coltrane"- but there it is. So many movies, so many movies.
I've been waiting patiently, but for too long for the movie of the life of J.J. Froberger and can't understand why it hasn't been done already!
Cheers,
Hillary & Jackie was very reminiscent of the sixties and seventies and Baremboim did not make a good figure in it. The playing was wonderful, the film? so la-la. But not really bad.
Abel Gance with his Beethoven and Baur as the maestro is quite good.
A propos your comment on " Tout les matins..." and Depardieu I fully feel it this way too.
But not in Sturges film who was a big disapointment recently, but we spoke already about.
My Fair Lady.
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