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Maybe Ford´s´best. Anyway still holding the test of time.
I am glad to have it give a go again. Strong film.
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yes it goes for some basic emotions. but I think that is it's strength. It stays on that course and doesn't hedge on that concept.
cloying is a thin one...but I think this film stands the test of time in several ways, i.e. the power of strong families, cruelty of economics, etc.
an adversary. Drama 101.
Cruelty of Victor to you...et cetera....
I'd suggest a '98 (anything newer may have a bit too much overwhelming fruit yet) Chehalem (small vineyard selection), WillaKenzie (French owners and winemakers!), Beaux Freres (part-owned by Rob't. Parker), Broadley (Claudia's Choice), Cristom (NOT Jefferson vineyard, but any other reserve), Archery Summit, and Brick House.
I'd stay away from Ken Wright, Tori Mor, Penn-Asher, especially...
If you cannot obtain the older ones, '99 and 2000 are excellent years: of course, decanting a couple of hours before consumption is a must!
Thank you Tin. I will try to cach one of them. As I was walking this morning I saw in a shop one bottle of Pinot 1998 " Byron " Nielson Vineyard Santa Maria Valley, wo was down in price, ( $ 24 ) so I bought it, this evening I will give it a go.
So I did.
Good wine, for the money excellent. Has not the finesse of the one of Bourgogne, but for this price the Bourgogne have also not!
In fact its better than the French ( I know..) for this price tag.
Far more better,
Now, see my list and try for an Oregon example.
The climate in Oregon, of course, is quite different from that of Bougogne. The Pacific acts quite differently, with steady rain for 7 months of the year, cool temperatures, followed by very good heat and almost absolute drought to finish up the final 4-5 months. The trick is to pick immediately after the first "serious" rain hits, usually in September.
When last in Paris (for our 3-wk. honeymoon) we consumed pretty much only French bourgogne. I was quite disappointed. Several years previously, I had travelled from one end of B to the other. Getting to know the folks at different wineries helped immensely: I got excellent French pinots I could afford. Your wines seem to take a LOT longer to lose the "sulphuric" effect.
Anyhow, forget CA and try OR.
It is even written on the bottle...He-he...As I told you It just was a Pinot and American and sold out, and I did not regret it.
The next will be an Oregon.
The Bourgogne are just too expensive now.
When you got one good bottle you are in paradise. A very intellectual wine.
Yes you should wait at least five years.
Jadot makes some affordable good one.
But now I WANT to try that Oregon wine...
Sould you provide the price ranges for these? I'll check my good store here.
Pinot, you'll not be able to find one showing well now...they'd probably be 2002s.
The ones mentioned (get special designates for all, if possible) should range from high twenties (Chehalem) to 90 (Archery Summit vineyards such as Arcus fetch, perhaps, over 100; Beaux Freres (resist Beaux Soeurs like the plague) expect to pay around 65 for BF).
If you have any good whites, perhaps an exchange? I'm drinking my '98s now and, though a tad young, they're showing very well.
I hate the thought of anyone (even you :--)) drinking such good wines before their time.
I have always liked this since I saw it on TV as a teen age babysitter. I own it and watch it every couple of years.
Some critics feel that it is a schmaltzfest. While that may be true, I think it does a good job of showing how many towns survived because of mines, and how the local economy was dependent on the mine. There are parallels in West Virgina and Pittsburgh. Without knowing first, would you have guessed that John Ford directed? And did Roddy McDowell change at all in his adult life? He looks the same. All in all, a very pleasant, thought provoking, and yes, emotional film.
I would also add. A strong point against hypocrisy will go through and through this film.
One you can not win with fists.
Praise the Lord and the men of good will.
That is the message.
One of my fave John Sayles' films.
"A country that does not respect the rights of its own people will not respect the rights of its neighbors,"- Andrei Sakharov
Yes I would.
Typical 100% Irish Ford.
Think only at the punishment of the school teacher!
The same vein as in the " Quiet man " !
Is it not?
I associated John Ford with "The Quiet Man", because of John Wayne. I probably enjoyed that one more, but seeing How Green was My Valley demonstrates that he could direct more than fist throwing films. I hope it did not appear that I disliked How Green was My Valley. I have no problem with schmaltz, when the film earns the emotion. I really enjoyed How Green was My Valley.
Fist throwing? You mean his films before 1930?
Now I am mean.
No you did not.
Well, these are the John Ford films that I have seen:(1) How the West was Won (1962) - Civil war segment
(2) The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance - (1962)
(3) The Horse Soldiers (1959)
(4) The Searchers (1956)
(5) Mister Roberts (1955)
(6) The Quiet Man (1952)
(7) Rio Grande (1950)
(8) She Wore a Yellow Ribbon (1949)
(9) Fort Apache (1948)
(10) They were Expendable (1945)
(11) The Grapes of Wrath (1940)They all involved fisticuffs. I do not remember seeing any of his films before 1930. With the possible exception of Grapes of Wrath, I would not call any of those films "tender", which is how I would describe "How Green was My Valley." But then I have not see all his films, just a relatively small sampling. Maybe his work with Wayne made him a little harder.
Which brings to mind a story I remember Kirk Douglas telling. He and John Wayne were at a party, and John Wayne pulled him aside to the balcony. Apparently, Kirk Douglas had done an "emotional" film, I cannot recall which one. John Wayne told him that actors like them could not do films like that, which might generate a tear, because it would damage their reputation, presumably as tough guys. Douglas said that John Wayne was absolutely serious. Maybe John Wayne told the same thing to John Ford.
Stagecoach.
It shine with what Ford really was. A must.
I wanted to point out that fiscuffs is only one of his " naive " aspect, very Irish, and very " clean " to solve problems.
Ford was the one after J. Wayne took his advice, not the other way around.
I would place it near the " Grapes of Wrath ". Schmaltz? Of course you can see it this way too. You could also see it as socialistic film.
I just see it as being humanistic.
Yes it is no a " brain " film, but one from the heart.
Anyway we french not only love Jerry ( I do not ) but also cherish Mr.Ford and rightly so.
***Some critics feel that it is a schmaltzfest.So do some viewers. I don't think I sat till the end... don't recall.
He-he. I sat through it in...four sessions. So the schaltz diluate...But it is a typical Ford, you have to love him....
I can't say I really love his work. But then, of course, I don't appreciate Hitchcock, so perhaps something is very wrong with me? Maybe it is not eating enough broccoly when I grew up?I don't know... certain things just don't seem to click in us.
Yes, something wrong with you...Now let´s analyse that....I would more think of spinach...
You may analyze, but I ain't paying you $200 an hour.
Ha-ha...Don´t count on me for paying my services with garlic vodka.....
pay no attention to the man behind the curtain
vodka? :-))
Do you love Norman Rockwell?
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