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In Reply to: The fiasco of " War of the Worlds "----------------- posted by patrickU on June 3, 2005 at 09:41:55:
I think you are being generous. I just saw this movie today. To quote Victor. Kaka. This was one of the most stupid movies I hve ever seen. I love a good scifi movie but scifi isn't an excuse for stupid. I'll accept a premise, just about any premise but not stupidity. One could drive a space ship through the holes in this movie. Starts off with the aliens wiping out all the electrical. This worked in the cities but out in the country the laws of physics are different. Of course the power grid works in the country too but not the city. Tom Cruises's son for no apparent reason wants to get an up close look at the bad guys and is engulfed in a ball of fire. Don't worry though, he was OK. There were more ridiculous escapes from falling airplanes falling bridges and flying cars and balls of fire than the usual crappy action movies. Amoung all the stupid characters doing stupid things and the inconsistancies for the sake of convenience and cheap revelations (my favorite is that they use human blood as fertilizer but they like to fry people when they first come out of the ground) there is amoungst this stupidity a story. Er um well... maybe not. They come, people get slaughtered and TC and family have a long string of idiotic improbable escapes from situations that only an idiot would put themselves into to begin with. I've seen better story arcs at monster truck rallies. Then there is the premise, perhaps the most stupid part of the movie. The alien ships have been there planted in the ground since before man walked the earth. That is anticipation on steroids. "Hey lets plant these mchines in the ground so we can invade this place at a later date just in case inteligent beings evolve and present an obsticle." Why didn't they just stay in the first place when they planted all those machines of destruction? Why ask? Oh and the hour long game of hide and seek with the alien eye while Tom wrestles with a guy bent on getting caught by the aliens. So bad. Kaka.
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Well when you look at it like a " serious " film then of course you are fully right to classify it as " Victor´s kaka ". But I did not tried ( impossible ) to see any kind of logic behind! Just a fantasy product, and what is more in the context of today terrorism to analyse the angst that it diffuse to the people, and how it play with this fears.
Back then it was the " cold war " today it is Bin laden and the bunch of murderers.
That is not without interrest. ( and what I wrote in my first post )
Beside that the tradition of the book is being respect, Wells had it with colonialism, and now we, with terrorism.From this stand of view, it has something to tell us. Of course if you have followed poor TC lost in this film there is only one word to tell: Kaka....
"Well when you look at it like a " serious " film then of course you are fully right to classify it as " Victor´s kaka "."
I try to look at every film as I think the film maker wishes me to. I would never complain about the lack of logic found in a Monty Python movie. Te intent of those movies is pretty clear. IMO the intent of most scifi movies is to present a premise or a set of premises that asks us to accept something that doesn't exist or hasn't really happened. I will go with that. But if stylistically the movie is asking us to suspend disbelief then I expect that movie to make sense within the premise it presents and to take the consequences of that premise and the story that goes with it in an inteligent direction. This movie failed miserably on all counts.
" But I did not tried ( impossible ) to see any kind of logic behind! Just a fantasy product, and what is more in the context of today terrorism to analyse the angst that it diffuse to the people, and how it play with this fears."
IMO the film makers did want the audience to take the film seriously in so much as they wanted them to suspend their disbelief and be drawn into the altered reality presented.
"Back then it was the " cold war " today it is Bin laden and the bunch of murderers.
That is not without interrest. ( and what I wrote in my first post )
Beside that the tradition of the book is being respect, Wells had it with colonialism, and now we, with terrorism."That analysis was very interesting. However the Wells broadcast was so superior that it created a huge amount of real panic. Now that's suspending disbelief! What else does that tell you? It tells me his choice of style and content was extremely inteligent. That's great scifi IMO. He presented the premise and developed it in a way that never made you think "that's stupid" and he built the story in a way that drew people in and took them on an incredible journey of terror. Spielberg took us on a ridiculous journey of impossible escapes fom stupid visual effects. I wa saying to myself at every turn "that's stupid." No thank you. It doesn't have to be stupid. Just because a premise asks us to put away our beliefs about reality doesn't mean a film make has a licence to make everything stupid. Not if the film maker wants to draw us in suspend our diselief and take us on a journey. Wells did it beautifully, Spielberg failed. And they set out to tell the same story.
"From this stand of view, it has something to tell us."
You found a little tid bit I couldn't get into because the mass stupidity surrounding it. But now that you mentioned it I can't say that he really went anywhere with it did he? The aliens were hardly anything like terrorists were they? The parrellels fell apart rather quickly.
" Of course if you have followed poor TC lost in this film there is only one word to tell: Kaka...."
I didn't really have a problem with him per se. I don't think there was anything any actor could have done in his place to make a better movie.
The aliens were like terrorists, in both account. Physically and in the context of " angst ".
Evident for me.
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