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In Reply to: Water drops? More like posted by tinear on October 30, 2005 at 07:44:52:

Nothing cavalier about it. We all have hierarchy in your minds, and in my view Fassbinder, whether due to the unfortunate shortness of his career, or his peculiar vision of the world, or his choice of artistic means, does not occupy the space next to those I would consider true giants. The term "second tier" is not an insult, it is rather a statement of facts. I like some of his works, but I have never been drawn head-over-hills into any of his movies - they are too rational for me to do that. There is brain, and plenty of intriging observations, but emotion is lacking, and it is mostly the emotion that I seek.

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Emotion? Are you serious? You haven't seen either Lola or Ali, have you? nt - tinear 12:34:37 10/30/05 (8)
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- "You haven't seen either Lola or Ali, have you?" Of course I have. - Victor Khomenko 13:09:17 10/30/05 (7)
  You can look at archives if you like. Lola nearly killed me with boredom, Ali was more interesting, but don't you think it was so contrived it really had little to do with reality?
  - Contrived? No. The Moroccan guy actually was Fassbinder's lover - tinear 18:23:35 10/30/05 (6)
    and the age disparity, though not as much as in the movie, existed.
    The acting was such that it overcame my anticipated "contrived" feeling.
    Lola boring?
    I read a post where you mentioned that but I thought you were referring to another post.
    Anyhow, both of these films were extremely "emotional," which was my original point.
    - And he fell in love with an old ugly woman. Sure.... - Victor Khomenko 05:32:55 10/31/05 (5)
      Emotions are personal. What will leave one person cold might generate an avalanche in another, so I don't know why you have any issues with my being rather cool to his works. If they feel emotional to you I am not going to try to turn you around. Often these are based in our personal experiences, even if indirectly related.
      Or you are going to sue me over that?
      But Lola? As I watched it I could not believe I was watching Anouk that truly sparkled, was really a firework under ice, in La Dolche Vita, so dumn, unattractive and unwieldy she was in Lola... and to think that was done AFTER the La Dolce Vita makes you think.
      - It happens, Vic, it happens (Kuerten/Demi Moore?). Anyhow, you have - tinear 16:56:59 10/31/05 (4)
        
        In Reply to: And he fell in love with an old ugly woman. Sure.... posted by Victor Khomenko on October 31, 2005 at 05:32:55:
        
        Lola all wrong: I'm talking about Fassbinder's Lola, not some French movie with Anouk. I think you'd like it... a lot.
        
        He-he... you got me on this one! - Victor Khomenko 17:16:50 10/31/05 (3)
        
        In Reply to: It happens, Vic, it happens (Kuerten/Demi Moore?). Anyhow, you have posted by tinear on October 31, 2005 at 16:56:59:
        
        I don't know how I've gotten into that loop! I recall the "other" Lola, but vaguely. Should have paid more attention.
        By a strange coinsidence, watching The Blue Angel right now.
        And... many things happen, few get put on screen.
        
        The Blue Angel: I like Marlene! But, I like the very similar - tinear 04:51:06 11/01/05 (2)
        
        In Reply to: He-he... you got me on this one! posted by Victor Khomenko on October 31, 2005 at 17:16:50:
        
        Of Human Bondage with Bette D better: her performance is my fav female film one.
        See Lola, I think you'll like the tycoon's character very, very much.
        
        And I can't stand Marlene! - Victor Khomenko 06:06:40 11/01/05 (1)
        
        In Reply to: The Blue Angel: I like Marlene! But, I like the very similar posted by tinear on November 1, 2005 at 04:51:06:
        
        Not in the Angel, and even more so in the Witness to the Prosecution, that we watched last night. A horrible person, and a horrible actress. While in the Angel she hardly had to do any acting, in the Witness a couple of scenes called for it, and she fell flat on her unpleaqsant face - expecially while delivering her "Damn you!..." speech. I can take some of her singing, if not too much, but acting... But not her singing in the Witness - a sore reminder of how poorly the German language fits singing. It works great with Schubert, but Marlene's choppy, hard and almost hostile delivery all created an unpleasant moment.
        
        Agreement on Marlene, too Butch for me. I must say I - tinear 06:35:07 11/02/05 (0)
        
        In Reply to: And I can't stand Marlene! posted by Victor Khomenko on November 1, 2005 at 06:06:40:
        
        like Wagner, however...

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