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In Reply to: You mean "scientists bought and paid for by big oil", not "scientists" posted by Bruce Kendall on June 16, 2006 at 11:48:43:
...& Paid.... etc. etc. It's obvious that they are, because it says so on the internet. Besides, George Bush went to Harvard; I rest my case.clark
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both sides of the story, you'd agree that you just helped me make my point. Yes, all bought and paid for.....even the ones whose area of specialty is dentistry. GMAFB.
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Now there is seasoned nonpartisan opinion for you. He's the only "scientist" allowed in the White House. That, my friend, says a lot.Yes, all bought and paid for.
From the speech headered below (substitute "global warming" for "nuclear winter"):At the time, there was a concerted desire on the part of lots of people to avoid nuclear war. If nuclear winter looked awful, why investigate too closely? Who wanted to disagree? Only people like Edward Teller, the "father of the H bomb."
Teller said, "While it is generally recognized that details are still uncertain and deserve much more study, Dr. Sagan nevertheless has taken the position that the whole scenario is so robust that there can be little doubt about its main conclusions." Yet for most people, the fact that nuclear winter was a scenario riddled with uncertainties did not seem to be relevant.
I say it is hugely relevant. Once you abandon strict adherence to what science tells us, once you start arranging the truth in a press conference [or movie/cj], then anything is possible. In one context, maybe you will get some mobilization against nuclear war. But in another context, you get Lysenkoism. In another, you get Nazi euthanasia. The danger is always there, if you subvert science to political ends.
and none of them are foolish enough to pretend to be experts in climate change.Clark, this is just one of those issues we're going to agree to disagree on. I know your mind is made up, and so is mine. Let's go kick ass somewhere else in AA now.
I encountered the facts.clark, Bought & Paid by Big Oil
If you didn't get a lot, let me handle those negotiations for you in the future. ;~)
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Someone needs to tell him he isn't writing a book when it comes to this stuff. The screenplay is going to be ugly. ;~)
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