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brilliant! Divine decadence....
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Enough tunes to qualify as a musical.
I'm not.I feel pretty comfy classifying MP&THG as ...er, let's see...oh yeah - COMEDY.
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One more mint? Or are you too stuffed?
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...how about the first Steamboat?clark
Are you sure that's just musicals given the ultrarealism of Star Wars, X Men, Mission Improbable, The News at 9, Adverts.
If you mean "Show Boat" actually the first one is silent. The next one is the musical. Then there's the remake in color as well as a suvstantial portion of "Till the Clouds Roll BY".
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I generally don't like musicals however. I used to love the old Elvis movies when I was a kid, other than that I've seen very few mentioned by others here.
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Sound of Music. I really did not think much of it until my kids were little and did one of those things kids do, watch the same movie 400 times in a row. The more I watched SoM, the more depth I saw in the overall filming, editing and acting. You can note small things you miss in just a few viewings. Overall a very good film.Second is Seven Brides for Seven Brothers. Simply an outstanding film with fab dancing and singing and everything one wants or needs. Feels a lot like a stage setting. Excellent!
Third on my list is probably Singing in the Rain. Nuff said.
Fourth might be Sun Valley Serenade. Lots of energy in this one that keeps up throughout the movie. Basic formula film but good.
Oklahoma is great as a stage play but the only version that really flies on film is the Brits TV version. The old US version has great singing but the film never captures the stage depth.
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French actress dispensed with her top I found much more enjoyable than any other musicals' scenes.
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well, it was 'my time', the late 70s. Loved ONJ and all that.The Grease soundtrack was among the first LPs I bought.
You need to get out more!Seriously, while Grease the movie is fun, Greas the stage musical was somethin' else. See it live if you ever get the chance.
Pretty damned swell movie musical - original to the screen too.Yes, I like a lot of things in Cabaret but my favorite Fosse is All That Jazz. Should be plenty decadent enough for anyone.
Also superb:
West Side Story (I still carry a flame for George Chakiris)
Oklahoma
Meet Me In St. Louis
42nd Street
Gold Diggers of 1933
Silk Stockings
Top Hat
Swing Timeahhhh...Fred & Ginger - now THAT was divine...let's face the music and dance!
have you ever seen Daddy Long Legs? It is my absolute favorite Fred Astaire film!!! He and Leslie Caron were great dancing partners....
Daddy Long Legs, Funny Face, Barclay's of Broadway, The Band Wagon, all the Fred & Gingers...The man was a freakin' genius. I even have several of his albums - he had a way with COle Porter.
I still remember when Michail Barishnikov spoke at a tribute to Fred Astaire. It started off, "All of us dancers feel the same way about Fred Astaire - we hate him. Because he makes it all look so easy."
I too have several of his albums... as far as male singers go NO ONE has had a more natural singing style with the possible exception of Nat King Cole. There is always the Astaire vs. Kelly camps but for me it's always Fred....The guy just ooozed class...and was a nice guy to boot!
...are polar opposites. I love them both, of course, and would never put a "vs" between their names.And yet...Fred was the more special artist to me. What a double whammy he packed - one of the greatest dancers of the 20th century *and* one of the greatest pop song stylists. His genius was that he made it all seem so natural, elegant, organic and (especially)effortless...when of course it was anything but effortless. Fred was a rehearsing maniac so it looked that way.
I think Fred displayed in his dancing the same thing that genius choreographer George Balanchine achieved in his ballets - absolute clarity. When you look at Fred dancing or at Mr. B's ballets, you see the unity of the dancer, the music and the emotion all at the same time. Nothing extraneous, nothing wasted - everything is right, and the dance tells you everything you need to know.
Kelly OTOH was all about energy, attack and athleticism, projected with a rakish charm. There was always something boyish about his persona, as well as something of the street smart.
Oh...and Fred also loved horses - as do I.
...is my favorite. Very slick. Very Arthur Freed at the top of MGM's game. But, there are really too many to name.
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I have a real problem with the ever waspy Natalie Wood as a PR...this is one film that I have mixed emotions on...the score, choreography and direction were all wonderful...for me Maria and Tony just didn't gel....I didn't feel the chemistry between them...
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The music was fantastic, the choreography by Agnes DeMille was, unlike in most musicals, a major strength of the film, and the casting was perfect. I give "Sound of Music" 2nd place; it too was superbly filmed, but was too long and eventually tedious.
the choreography is beautiful but to me it makes the film disjointed and now seems very dated...take it out and it is very modern...Fred Zinnemann was an artist and a gifted director. I love so many of his films...
There is a DVD of a late 1990's British revival where the dream sequence is handled brilliantly and the dancers are the actual performers in the play.
THAT.... would make more sense
If you can find it it is truly amazing. Every player is a triple threat singer/actor/dancer. The story is "darker" than the film (not to denegrate the film, which I love) and all in all it's the best production of this classic I have seen.
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Liza should be scrubbing floors for Audrey
dub her voice. Had Cukor cast Julie Andrews (who rightfully should have played the part) in that role, I might agree with you. As to Liza... Liza is pedigree Hollywood talent...I've seen her live many times and she always manages to astound me.
On the DVD of MFL you will find much more than only this one song, and she did very well and very naturally.
Of course not as polished has DM but far more fitting.
In my view, and as far I understood, so to many others.
But you can not turn back time and we are left with an actress who did such a tremendous job and a voice who was great.
C´est la vie.
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Not the only one....
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I would take that any day over Liza.
me thinks NOT!
Me... I would not attend her concert if they paid me a twenty. I might consider it for a fifty, though.
Money do not make the world go round...The only moment I did like her was for her excellent role in Cabaret.
She is just one of those many minor has-beens, while Audrey shall remain the queen.
" Venal " means in French when one is VERY interrested in money, short one that money can buy ( $ 50 ).Audrey IS the queen.
there is a lovely photo of you @ CES I could post....but why bother...I'm done with you
Oh so pretty, pretty....Well, the last pictures I saw of her in England while just married, where not exactly one of a beauty.
Judy, her mother was much prettier!
Just remembered this picture with James Mason...Men do not need to be a beauty, in fact most of them who got all the most beautiful women around where not. That, and money....and much power...
(who I'm a fan of as well) the debate was who was the better singer... I do agree with you that Judy was prettier (and a better singer) than Liza. The thing I admire about Ms. Minnelli is that she is a survivor. She has survived drug addiction, alcholism, a rather "unusual" childhood, a knee and 2 hip replacements and viral encephalitis!!! She has worked tirelessly on behalf of countless human causes. Yes, she is overweight now..but that happens to MANY people in later years...Her spirit and talent are what I find appealing...
Those never diminish! As to the film with James Mason you remember...that was A Star Is Born also a Warner Bros. release as with the previously mentioned My Fair Lady. IMO Jack Warner made two mistakes with both of these films...one was NOT casting Julie Andrews (already discussed) and the second was cutting MANY of Ms. Garland's scenes from the final cut of her film. IMO that cost Garland the Oscar which went to Grace Kelly for The Country Girl (who IMO was NOT a good actress- but beautiful). If you like Garland, there is a link for a performance of "By Myself" no other artist to my knowledge has ever performed it in this way....BTW...Patrick ...hope you are doing a little better now in view of your recent loss...you always conduct yourself as a gentleman here...I appreciate that...
Every body is beautiful on his very own special way. Of course morality or the lack of it, bad food habit or a too much of drugs left deep imprints in one body and soul.
There is an inner strengh who should councel every one of us.
The respect of a given, better said, a lend body, is the ultimate reverence we can only bow to.
Beside that no one is a judge either for himself nor for other.If she did have done right as you said, we can only admire her.
Grace Kelly was indeed beautiful! At her best when filmed by Hichcock, remember the scene in the Carlton hotel in Cannes?
Nobody can get more of a beauty!Thank you.
Her beauty was incredibly short lived, she didn't have any class even during her best years, and very quickly became a very common looking woman.
I am afraid...She was...German....
was at the pinnacle of her beauty...But IMO she was somewhat of a gold-digger and hence her desire to marry royalty. As Patrick said she was reported to have had many lovers and was somewhat of a nymphomaniac...I've always appreciated her beauty....but felt she was far over-rated as an actress...
BUT she had MANY lovers...I think her parents were very Catholic and VERY rich!
She was much beloved from " her " citizen, in Monaco.
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