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In Reply to: "Seventh Seal" posted by sjb on April 25, 2007 at 22:28:28:
writing an essay. Like with all great art, you can't and shouldn't be able to pinpoint EXACTLY what it's creator is saying: like Mona Lisa's smile, there must be mystery, depth, and uncertainty. In other words, it must mirror life itself. Remember Shakespeare's famous exhortation about holding the mirror up to nature? You seem to wish to make Bergman's art transparent, reductable.
I suppose the "unknowing" might be a reference to Taoism's "non-ado" which doesn't mean undoing activity or not doing it but merely not rationalizing or planning it. I think.
Anyhow, of course the film is among the greatest.
You may wish to see a recent Swedish film titled, "Songs from the Second Floor."
It deals with our times in much the same way as Bergman did the 50's and has some clever nods to "Seven Seals," to boot.
BTW, you seem to have an extraordinary memory for details. You're not taking notes during these films? Really impressive!
Follow Ups:
I mean... who knows?I was just trying to put into words what struck me in an instant and was allowing for the possibility - however remote - that it was intentional.
I think the best art is that which gives different people different things because there's a universality to it.
It makes me think of being in Tibet a while back and going to a place outside of Lhasa (Tsurpu Monastary) to see the reincarnated Karmapa. A boy of about 8 at that time... since fled and the Chinese are trying to claim he isn't and that one of their people is.
Anyway, I got a few people I'd met while traveling around to come along (it was a long bus ride and we were the only westerners there) and while we were on line, circling the room the boy was in as we proceeded towards our blessing's, I felt that he was completely engaged with and looking at me and me alone. Then I noticed that he wasn't actually LOOKING at anyone. A few of us talked about it afterwards and we each had the same experience... each felt that he was fully engaged with them.
I think great art is like this.
As for memory... only if something interests/engages me. I can remember little details of those things for a long time... but not much else.
Don't piss on my shoe and tell me it's raining.
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