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In Reply to: Re: Just watched "Phantom Menace" DVD and I'm blown away... posted by Semicolon on November 05, 2001 at 15:03:19:
I agree with you completely. The first time I saw it, it lacked.......I don't know, something. Jar Jar shyted me, to say the least, and Queen (16yo)Amidala - who'd elect a teenager to rule a planet?? But the more I see it, the better it gets. I think what Lucas had in mind was to present the evolution of the Star Wars universe from a bright & semi-happy democracy, to an evil & brutal dictatorship. I don't think any judgement should be passed until we see the series evolve from episode I, to the end of episode III and into episode IV.On the Jar Jar side of things, the more I watch the film the more he becomes part of the universe. Now, the only thing that gives me the shytes in this film is the totally unnecessary scene before the podrace, where Jar Jar is farted on by some animal. What is the point??
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The real issue here is that while the first 2 Star Wars films embraced both young and old, or in a more corny way of sying it - the child in all of us, the last film in the original triology veered into kiddy land, fuzzy creatures and toy product placements. He's completed the evolution here with PM in that all of the thinkers and drivers of the action are now children. Children who dont need to be able to act because thats a subtlety lost on an 8 year old audience.An audience that LOVES fart jokes.
Unfortuantely for him Shrek and Monsters Inc. do the kid thing even better than he does. And adults go to those films expecting a childrens film with enough adult humor to interest them too. Unfortunately for him (and us as well) the adults remeber what the first films delivered and against that yardstick what follows will inevitably come up short so long as he continues down this path.
joe
You're right, the first three films were actually made for adults, but (thanks to their PG rating) still had appeal for children.
No matter what Lucas says, they weren't intended as children's films.If you read the ORIGINAL novel, Lucas describes the death of Stormtroopers as - the energy bolt hit the trooper in the head, sending splintered fragments of helmet, bone and flesh.....etc.
Kid's films, huh George?
I think what really happened is, since he made the bulk of his money from merchandising, and the bulk of the merchandising dollars came from kid's toys etc, he had a grand scheme to kidify the new ones. Just look at the special editions. Han used to kill Greedo in cold blood!!!!!!!
Plus there's the fact that in the twentyish years since ROTJ, he's had his own children, some are still in grade school. He's mellowed.
Come on!! He TORTURED Han Solo in The Empire Strikes Back!!!
....will be interesting to see since "most of the characters in the first film will be dead by the conclusion of episode 3."Have you read the prequel spoilers?
Tom §.
Where can the spoilers be found ?Thanks,
Ross
Click if you really want to be spoilt.Tom §.
you're peeved because, as an adult, you feel you've been excluded from the "kiddy-fied" TPM? That what you're looking for is something a bit more adult than fart gags, and that TPM doesn't pander to you on that score?:)
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