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In Reply to: Re: The only thing that matters is how it sounds posted by CD on August 21, 2002 at 06:20:38:

CD,
Yes, this explanation is much more clear. On the Rel I set my Crossover for the high level to 25hz. As you stated, this supports my mains at their lowest level and kicks in right around when they start to roll off whether music or movies. On the low level input, I am able to select whether to use this crossover or whether all LFE is played by the sub with a switch. I select no crossover for LFE, it plays what it gets in LFE and only uses the Crossover on the sub for the high level to support the mains.
Another option people are using with this sub, not me, is to set the main speakers to large, set sub to none in the preamp, and use only the high level connection. This causes all LFE to be matrixed to the mains and the sub to support them on anything below where the crossover is set on the sub. The problem I have with this, when you have a sub, is that the director put in LFE specifically to be played by a sub. Usually it is low bass information that is more efficiently handled by equipment specifically designed to play this information. No matter how good your mains are it is a lot to ask of them. Some movies, Titan A&E / Lord of the Rings / Phantom Menace carry a significant amount of low bass infromation in the LFE channel. For the mains to play all of this and the bass information that they normally get is an awful lot to ask. Unless of course you do not own a sub, then you have no other choice.
KM

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Re: The only thing that matters is how it sounds - CD 08:35:22 08/21/02 (2)
I agree with your setup. This discussion really highlights some of the problems associated with having a single HT/Audiophile system. The best is probably to have two dedicated systems.
BTW, I have the REL Q150E. For me, this was the best compromise for straddling the line between HT and Audio. It also is somewhat affordable and small. The only thing I could say I would want additionally would be a seperate cutoff control for the low level input and that it would be downward firing (aesthetically more pleasing look to me). But these are minor points.
I am *very* interested in hearing/seeing the new MJ Acoustics sub - which I believe has mimicked the REL input scheme and is downward firing to below 15Hz.
CD
- Re: The only thing that matters is how it sounds - KM 12:49:34 08/21/02 (1)
  CD,
  The Rel I have is the Storm III. This is a down firing sub from their ST series. All the subs in this series are down firing. The Storm is rated down to 16hz. The next one up is the Stadium it is rated down to 12hz. After that comes the Stentor rated down to 11hz. Lastly with a 500W amp and 2 long throw 10" drivers is the Studio. This baby is rated down to 9hz. All of their subs have the ability to be tuned in for music ahd HT with both high and low level connections. They are not cheap but they are very well built with high quality parts.
  KM
  - Re: The only thing that matters is how it sounds - CD 18:08:55 08/21/02 (0)
    Yep. I was eyeing the Strata III, but it was out of my budget for now. Similar to the MJ Acoustics Ref I. For their size (12" cubes), the Q150E and Q200E are very impressive and very high quality.
    CD

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