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Interesting new DVD player (VGA and 1080p component)

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Joe Murphy Jr

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In the past, several people have asked about DVD players with a VGA output. Here's a link to an upcoming inexpensive player ($195 preorder) with some "interesting" other video features:

http://www.neodigits.com/body/product/hvd208/feature.asp#specs (Open in New Window)

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Re: Interesting new DVD player (VGA and 1080p component) - jedirun 15:45:34 03/23/05 (0)
Here is another review of the NeuNeo HVD108
- http://www.hometheaterblog.com/hometheater/2004/08/neuneo_high_def_1.html (Open in New Window)
Re: Interesting new DVD player (VGA and 1080p component) - jedirun 11:16:52 03/23/05 (0)
Neodigits claims that the 208 has all of the features of the 108 with some bug fixes and the addtion of HMDI and 1080P over component.
Neodigits also claims that the DVD player will output to any DVI input, HDCP compliant or not.
The review includes detailed information about the chipset ot the 108. The 208 includes an upgraded chipset from the same manufaturer.
The player sounds awesome. I think I may take the plunge and buy one next month.
- http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Specific.aspx?ArticleId=11171 (Open in New Window)
And imagine that... - Phil_in_CA 17:01:20 02/04/05 (2)
I just spent $260 on a D-VHS player to fill the technology "gap" between my HDTV and my 480p DVD player!!! I didn't expect any new HD players on the market within a year at a price point that I could afford... As usual, I musta missed the mark again... oh well!
Phil
- It must prove itself first. - Joe Murphy Jr 19:55:28 02/04/05 (1)
  I'm not endorsing this player as the next greatest thing, just throwing it out there for people looking for a player that has a VGA output and for those people curious about new video gear.
  See my response below to the questions about possible flaws in the playback. Until the player is put through its paces, no one knows for sure if it's all that wonderful.
  - Re: It must prove itself first. - Phil_in_CA 11:15:57 02/05/05 (0)
    Of course, I agree with you... I was typing with my tongue in my cheek .
    I intend to enjoy my D-VHS player in the meantime!
    Phil
Too good to be true? - Jon L 10:44:34 02/04/05 (1)
1080p upsampling over component and HDCP non-compliant??
Do you know which scaler, deinterlacer chipset it uses?
I would pre-order it, except I have a sinking feeling in my stomach that it will exhibit some of the usual problems with hot new DVD players including:
Black crush when DVI-> HDMI cable is used
Color and/or Lumens standard mis-implementation when going from HDMI to component
Stretching 4:3 material to 16:9 if upsampling is used
Screen cropping issues
Various white-crush issues and just plain poor PQ issues
Macroblocking issues
Plain old mechanical problems including poor disc drive, PS, etc
Still, I'm hoping this is a good one. IF it can deliver on its promises at this price, it would be awesome.
- We'll know when it's tested. - Joe Murphy Jr 20:06:33 02/04/05 (0)
  I'm not endorsing this player as the next greatest thing, just throwing it out there for people looking for a player that has a VGA output and for those people curious about new video gear.
  1080p upsampling over component and HDCP non-compliant??
  I've asked elsewhere to confirm this, but I believe there may be a "catch phrase" with this model. If you look at the 7th bullet point in
  the Tech Specs section, it says "in high definition mode". Now, does that mean no HDCP when playing one of the HD titles from Asia or no HDCP when upsampling to an HD resolution with a regular DVD via HDMI?
  Do you know which scaler, deinterlacer chipset it uses?
  It uses the new Amlogic chip (www.amlogic.com). I don't know if this chip does scaling and deinterlacing or just scaling. If not deinterlacing, it might use a solution from Sony as the phrase "With latest per pixel based de-interlace technology" is very similar to their marketing terminology from 2 years ago. Just a guess though, as the Amlogic chip may do both to meet the price-point.
  I would pre-order it, except I have a sinking feeling in my stomach that it will exhibit some of the usual problems with hot new DVD players including:
  Black crush when DVI-> HDMI cable is used
  Don't know at this time.
  I think you mean when using an HDMI --> DVI connection, as there is no problem when using a DVI --> HDMI connection (provided the player uses the correct digital video levels, not the incorrect digital PC levels).
  Color and/or Lumens standard mis-implementation when going from HDMI to component
  Don't know at this time.
  You don't go HDMI to component. Do you mean when using YCbCr over HDMI in upconverting mode (the wrong color-space issue)? Using digital RGB mode should fix this.
  Stretching 4:3 material to 16:9 if upsampling is used?
  It says it will pillarbox a 4:3 frame inside of a 16:9 frame, so no stretching.
  Screen cropping issues
  Various white-crush issues and just plain poor PQ issues
  Don't know about either at this time.
  Macroblocking issues
  No Faroudja FL23xx chip used, no macroblocking issue. Since the Amlogic is doing (at least) the scaling, they're not using a Faroudja FL23xx chipset -- which does both deinterlacing and scaling.
  Plain old mechanical problems including poor disc drive, PS, etc
  Don't know at this time.
  Still, I'm hoping this is a good one. IF it can deliver on its promises at this price, it would be awesome.
  Quite nice indeed, for many people.

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