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Am looking to pick up entry level DVD player. Have Denon 3801 w/surround setup and Sony 36" Wega. Would appreciate suggestions.
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Have you considered the Pioneer Elite DV-05? Some places on the net sell them for $500 or so. I'm pretty happy with mine using the digital and S-Video outs. Coax out wasn't so great. Don't know how the component out looks -- got nothin' to plug it into!Have you considered a progressive scan player? They seem to get lots of favorable press. This is probably more relevant if you see a RPTV or projector in your future.
We have a Toshiba 1600 and like it.Layer changes are barely noticable and has never failed to play a disc.Use it for transport to Yamaha 5250 for CD's and seems to do this well also. Mind you I haven't tried any others, hope this helps.
At the entry level ( < $250) consider either the Toshiba SD-1600 or Pioneer DV-333.I'd lean towards the Pioneer, since it will output a 24bit/96KHz bitstream.
Regards,
I'm not sure I understand what you are refering to.
I thought a digital output was the same in all DVD machines, guess
this means a lot more homework for me.
Helier
Not quite. Most DVD Players will downconvert 24bit/96KHz Digital Audio Discs to 20bit/48KHz.Pioneer's lineup are the only players I'm aware of that will output the 24bit/96KHz bitstream from top to bottom of their products.
Regards,
John,
What an eye opener!
I bought the B&K ref30 based on your recomendation (and my ears) and
am very happy with the sound I'm getting.
If I understand you correctly, however, I'm not feeding the Pre-Amp
the "proper" signal for the DACS to do their magic.
What to do now? DVD audio is here, is that the way to go? or would an entry level player such as the Pioneer you mentioned serve me better in the interim until things settle down?
I noticed when my DVL700 played the James Taylor DVD the pre amp was
getting DD5.1 48Khz so you are quite right in your statement.
Once again many Thanks
Helier
Dolby Digital has a maximum sampling rate of 48KHz at current specs and it has nothing to do with the player itself in this case.There are a very limited number of discs, released by Chesky, et al, that were encoded and sold as Digital Audio Discs at 24bit/96KHz. This is the 24bit/96KHz bitstream I'm discussing. Whether this is worth it to you or not, depends on whether you can find any 24bit/96KHz material you'll like. Note, this is different from DVD-Audio.
To get this data, you either have to use the DACs in your DVD player, or purchase a Pioneer DVD player or the Sony DVP-S9000ES. There are a handful of other players with this capability.
As for DVD-A vs SACD, I've ehard the inexpensive JVC player, and for $500 it's a very good DVD video player. The audio side of it just isn't happening on the same level to my ears. If you aren't in a hurry, or budget restrictions are serious issues, it might be best to sit back on the sidelines and see what happens.
I'm glad that you feel my recommendations were sound -- and that the Ref 30 is a welcome piece in your HT system :-) I'd feel much worse if you said it sucked.
Regards,
john,
Thanks for your reply.
If i understood correctly the only thing my current player cannot do
is play those Chesky discs. I was begining to think that there was another level untapped.
I think I'll wait a bit on the DVD-A. I should be getting a new turn
table this week (Sumiko project 2) and that should keep me busy for a little while. Meanwhile Patricia Barber sounds wonderful on the B&K.
The presence in my room is uncany.
Once again thanks
Helier
It is more likely that the only thing your current player can't do is pass the 24bit/96KHz signal digitally.Most DVD players on the market today can decode 24bit/96KHz internally, and pass that out as an analog signal. They just don't pass the 24bit/96KHz signal digitally.
Regards,
> > Most DVD players on the market today can decode 24bit/96KHz internally, and pass that out as an analog signal. < <Make that *all* DVD-Video players. Some of the early players were 20bit/96 kHz, but in practical terms, 20 vs 24 bits is irrelevant. There's not a DVD player in the world that can approach a 24 bit SNR. I'm doubtful that any can even reach true 20 bit resolution (120 dB SNR).
The 20 bit DVD players can read any 96/24 DVD-Video signal, including Chesky DAD's. Anyone who owns Chesky DAD's and a DVD-Video player, whether it outputs 20/48, 24/48, 20/96 or 24/96 through its digital out, should compare the sound quality from the analog outputs and the digital outputs to see which is better.
Dan Bonhomme
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