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"Succession:" how good can it get?

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Posted on December 14, 2021 at 08:51:59
tinear
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 Damn good! The ending of Season 3 was terrific--- it was fascinating, told you a lot more about the characters--- and left you crazed to know more. Strong, as Kendall (wonderful article in the New Yorker about him and his belated entry into stardom), again takes a 180-degree turn, though in a believable and not-unexpected direction.

I hate to say it... but Machiavellian, Shakespearean, excellent!

 

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RE: "Succession:" how good can it get? , posted on December 14, 2021 at 16:23:11
tunenut
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 I love this show. I was anxiously awaiting a new season and was not disappointed. You probably know Brian Cox was a notable King Lear in the UK theater and even wrote a book about playing King Lear. So Shakespeare is part of the DNA of this show. The biggest success for me is the dialog, witty and profane, even the least intelligent of the family, Greg, gets pretty eloquent when he needs to. And the actors are uniformly great.

 

Absolute agreement. This ranks up there with fine films. nt, posted on December 15, 2021 at 08:07:01
tinear
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"dialog, witty", posted on December 15, 2021 at 10:28:13
Victor Khomenko
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 I dunno... I found it rather forced, you get that impression when jokes don't happen naturally, but rather someone makes it clear he is about to make one, dumps a clearly rehearsed one, and then his delivery falls flat.

I think for a naturally flowing witty dialog one has to go into the forties, but alas, that art has been replaced by "making jokes".


 

a chacun son gout, posted on December 15, 2021 at 11:13:09
tunenut
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 Obviously. As a reference, other TV shows I found witty were Seinfeld and Veep. Of course I could list numerous movies, but let me just mention Double Indemnity, original story by the great James Cain, movie script by the great Raymond Chandler. You don't get any more real noir than them.

 

2 behind so haven't seen the S3 finale but, if it's on a par with S2 Finale, we're in for quite the treat^, posted on December 15, 2021 at 21:53:13
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The jokes are supposed to fall flat, mostly, because they're, posted on December 16, 2021 at 06:36:56
tinear
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 a window into the character, not meant to be a standup comic's performance. Roman, for instance, is meant to be an obnoxious clown. Shiv has a little bit of that, trying desperately to reduce the cruelty of many things she says by poor attempts at humor. Anyhow, comparing the dozens of hours of this to any single film? Not exactly fair.

Not much funny since the 40s? Good God, I hope you're kidding. "Grand Budapest Hotel," "Arthur," or "Young Frankenstein" immediately come to mind...

For the record, I'm an immense fan of screwball 40s films, the work of Grant, Jean Arthur, Lombard, etc.

 

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