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Replacement tv for my Panasonic plasma

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Posted on September 30, 2017 at 09:47:03
fwestern753
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My 8-9 year old Panasonic plasma now has developed a 4-5 inch wide vertical distortion from the top to the bottom. It was a great tv. I am not a techie or a big movie guy. I enjoy a blu ray movie once in awhile. I also enjoy sports and a few tv shows. I am 63 and my son recently got me a Roku and I picked up a Sonos playbar(the tv speaker was distorting). The simpler the better.

I have been doing a little reading on tvs and it appears things are more complicated than plasma or lcd.(when I last bought a tv)

Any suggestions for a old guy. I would like to do a 55 inch but may consider a 65 inch. We sit about 14-15 feet away from the tv. I was hoping to spend $1000 or less but I can go a few hundred more if that would be something much better

thanks
Frank




 

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With your price point..., posted on October 1, 2017 at 10:49:41
...you'd rule out OLED TV's which would be a step up from your Panasonic. That said you should be able to find a 55" TV from Samsung, Sony, or Vizio for under a grand. Stepping up to a 60" will add a couple of hundred. Since I thought my Samsung plasma was DOA and I vowed no more expensive TV's, I went with a Sony 49" 800E 4K TV and I'm very happy with it. Personally I wouldn't buy another Samsung as I emphatically stated in the thread below, but others have had better luck than I did. And some will tell you to stay away from Sony. So you kind of have to pick your poison.

 

If you plan to get a 4K TV... , posted on October 2, 2017 at 08:01:47
RadioWonder
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You will need a steady internet connection speed of 25 megabits per second or higher for services like Netflix Ultra HD and Amazon Prime Ultra HD...

Since I do not have a 4K TV I can not comment on their upconverting (or upscaling) abilities... See link...
https://www.cnet.com/news/can-4k-tvs-make-1080p-look-better/

4K OTA TV (Over The Air TV) is coming, but may be a while in your area...


I can only get "7 megabits per second" so I am relegated to 1080P TVs...

 

I made the jump to OLED..., posted on October 2, 2017 at 10:58:46
SF tech
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I needed to replace a ~10-year-old, 42" Panasonic plasma that was developing problems. I think I spent around $1200 for it at the time, and was hoping to get a better panel for around the same price I paid back then.

Once I saw the new LG OLED sets I was hooked, and it spoiled me for any possible LCD replacement. Simply phenomenal picture quality that made even the mighty Panny plasma pale in comparison.

I really wasn't prepared to spend $2k+ on a television, but I bit the bullet and couldn't be more pleased. 1080p content upscaled to 4k looks amazing, and the black level performance of OLED can't be matched at this time.

I ended up purchasing the LG OLED55C7P ($2200 promo pricing) and got a free $150 gift card in the deal. I have no regrets, and if this panel survives, I can easily imagine living with it for the next ten years or so.

I do think that Real Dick Hertz's recommendation of the Sony LCD is a solid pick... The XBR55X930E was my second choice, but at $1699 I felt that the extra $$$ for the LG OLED was worth it.

As usual, YMMV... Good luck!

Regards,
SF



 

RE: Replacement tv for my Panasonic plasma , posted on October 3, 2017 at 07:02:54
grantv
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I'm not a videophile by any means. When we bought, the old adage bigger is better was our motto. Ended up with a 65" Haier (sp?) for around $850! (that's CAD also, things are generally more costly up here)
Good for us. I sit around 16 feet from the TV, an 80" would be great in our opinion if we had the money.

 

RE: Replacement tv for my Panasonic plasma , posted on October 4, 2017 at 14:09:14
fantja
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I still miss those made in Japan Pioneer Elite and Fujitsu Plasma sets from the last decade.

 

RE: Replacement tv for my Panasonic plasma , posted on October 4, 2017 at 17:16:03
DeeCee
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I just had a Sony XBR65X900E installed and will shortly have it ISF calibrated after break in; it just replaced my Panasonic plasma screen and I am extremely pleased.

Go for this series if you can swing the cost... you won't regret it!

Happy Viewing!
DeeCee

 

If you are not into the latest, .....try Costco, posted on October 5, 2017 at 18:34:42
Carl G
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Just checked Costco. $1300 65 inch XLED.Close to your budget.

I just had a conversation with a coworker who just paid $4k for a Sony A1E Bravia.
His Plasma Kuro just went south and got 9 yrs out of it he paid $4k for it.
Dont know how long my Panasonic plasma will last...Looks like some are dying...

 

Hahhh. $4K and its lifespan is fairly limited....., posted on October 5, 2017 at 19:08:00
Carl G
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that $4000 TV my friend just bought... here is something I just read in a review of his TV.
"OLEDs deteriorate over time and through usage, and blue OLEDs do so at a quicker pace than red and green ones. I asked at a Sony press showcase recently if playing brighter-in-sports HDR would affect the A1E's lifespan--especially the blue elements. If you pump more current into them to make them brighter, you might think that the little beasties might wear out sooner. The product manager told me that HDR shouldn't produce a significant drop in the lifespan of an OLED."
I guess when you plunk down that kind of money , its just a matter of time....

 

Your comments on OLED TV's..., posted on October 5, 2017 at 19:34:34
...are precisely the reason I've sworn off expensive TV's. Guess if you watch a lot of movies it might be worth it to you. In contrast expensive TV's don't make network sitcoms any funnier or NCIS any less tedious.

 

RE: Your comments on OLED TV's..., posted on October 11, 2017 at 17:40:14
bajaed
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Been looking at some of the $800-$1,200 4K 65" TV's at Sam's. Not ready to replace my plasma yet so just window shopping.

Noticed several have HDR and "120 motion rate". If you dig deep enough, that seems it's a way to disguise 60hz refresh rate. Is that true?

 

When I was first looking for large screen TV's...., posted on October 11, 2017 at 20:43:54
...I simply wouldn't consider one with a refresh rate less than 120Hz. Well, I had no worries with my Panasonic since the refresh rate was something like 600Hz. My new Sony LED TV has a refresh rate of (the horrors) 60Hz. Don't notice any motion artifacts at all. So I'm guessing it's more of a matter of the video processing circuitry, than just the refresh rate.

 

RE: If you are not into the latest, .....try Costco, posted on October 17, 2017 at 14:11:29
fantja
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9 years is very good milage for a Plasma set.

 

RE: Replacement tv for my Panasonic plasma , posted on October 25, 2017 at 19:31:50
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I have relegated my pioneer elite 730 to the masterbedroom system.
Now I've gone the Epson projector route in my main setup with a 120 inch DNP , Din Nippon Printing of Denmark it arrived via 18 wheeler, supernova core 2 screen, this setup is so striking in its ability to move you and put you in the action it's astonishing. I never thought going from 65 inch to 120 would be so dramatically different, boy was it ever!

Epson has enough lumens or lightpower in there latest projectors, I'm not sure if you need a light rejecting screen like mine. I'm sure I will never purchase another TV again as technology is rapidly changing in this market also. So all I do now is upgrade my projector!

Have a Roku streaming stick for Netflix, fandango for the latest movies in true HD stored in the cloud once purchased, etc.. Love it.

Epson is my choice they're are many others 1080p 3d starting refurbished as little as 500 dollars. Optima has a 4k at around 2 thousand.

Good luck...
Regards,
/// Tim W. ///

 

I wish I had the right room...., posted on October 30, 2017 at 18:14:24
Rod M
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We built a home theater in our last house with a Stewart Studio Tek 130 retractable, micro-perf screen. I was spoiled. The screen cost way too much, but it's like forever and the projectors are like razor blades. Back then, a $10,000 projector wouldn't come close to a $500 one today.

I miss it.

-Rod

 

Remain optimistic..., posted on October 31, 2017 at 00:40:15
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And acquire the things that matter most to you. I'm hoping you'll have that room again! If that's what you desire, of course.

Yes much like digital precision in music, video now appears to incorporate frequent changes which create obsolescence in current products, think recurring income for manufacturers. Long gone are the days when products stood the test of time. Black and white tv gave way to color both having long runs. Then around 1987 stereo speakers in TV was introduced and it was pretty amazing.

Still analog TV with the vhs era, no fast changes you actually had time to enjoy the technology that justified the expenditures,then came DVD and the digital horizon opened up enormous landscapes, one new feature comes out 720, 1080i,1080p,3d which I like, then 4k, curved screens etc... all Inside a decade?!!

Time to separate the screen from the ever-changing chassis. To some extent taking back control in high quality video playback while retaining upgrade ability of formats in my time of choosing. Much like digital to analogue converters in music playback.

I enjoy the advancements yet still cherish the old black and white mono programs of yesteryear, as well a vinyl record.

Hope all's going well Rod and Thank You for providing such a uniquely wonderful forum. Wishing you Many years of prosperity.



Regards,
/// Tim W. ///

 

I too got a LG OLED, posted on December 8, 2017 at 10:34:01
jimbill
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I got the 55" B7P from Costco. $1650, plus it came with a free 3 yr. extended warranty on top of the Costco 2 yr., which gives me 5 yrs. total. The sales person said I actually have 7 yrs. because I bought it with a Costco credit card which has another 2 yrs. added. Not sure if she is correct.

My 50" Panny Plasma finally started to fail. Black areas started to show shadows of gray. It was actually a 720p, but I always got compliments on the picture from people with new LED's.

The new TV is much more realistic.

 

RE: Replacement tv for my Panasonic plasma , posted on February 12, 2018 at 17:40:03
Dr.Phil
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Any OLED. Higher price ones have better processors.
PJB

 

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