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In Reply to: RE: Slumdog Millionaire posted by padreken on April 12, 2009 at 22:24:41
Yeah, talk about manipulative. Did you notice the angry Hindu mob screaming "they're muslim, let's get 'em!" and promptly murdering the boys' mother? Imagine all the westerners who left the theater thinking how wronged those poor innocent Muslims are. Nevermind that they just turned Mumbai into a terrorist attack zone or that India is dotted with mosques built right on top of the ruins of gorgeous Hindu temples.
I also was horrified at how, after raping his brother's girlfriend at gunpoint and basically conducting himself as a gangster/aspiring terrorist, Salim thoroughly redeemed himself by going out in a blaze of suicidal glory screaming "God is great". The whole film was like a propaganda piece from CAIR.
I won't even get into the whole western gameshow part of the plot. Really in poor taste and exploitative. The real problem in India is the caste system, which was not even explored.
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leave your political views aside when going to movies OK.
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or does that only count when you also like the movie?
"The man is only half himself, the other half is his expression." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
Did you truly not realize the whole point of that post was
"The man is only half himself, the other half is his expression." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
Watched the whole movie, so I can't rate it poor, but let's say fair.The wifey announced immediately after the movie ended that it would win the best picture Oscar! For a rare change, the Mother-in-Law agreed with me ... but then she hasn't loved any movie since the 1950's!
I wanted to get a message to the President of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (through a local friend who is a friend of his wife) asking why violence against children was rewarded in Dumbdog ... while Alfred Hitchcock, the best director in the history of motion pictures, IMHO, NEVER won an Oscar for Best Director! The friend refused to deliver my message -- I guess she liked Dumbdog too!
Violence is the real pornography in this world.
Violence against women and childen is the worst violence.
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Richard BassNut Greene.....................................................................
The "Cliff Claven" of Audio
and the "Floyd R. Turbo of Bingham Farms Michigan"
Edits: 04/14/09
Maybe she realized what an absurd request it was. Since Sidney Ganis didn't become president until 2005-25 years after Hitchcock's death, and at least 40 years since his best films, exactly how do you think he'd respond to such a question? I'm guessing some variant of 'how the fuck should I know'-so I assume your friend didn't want to be the instigator of that scenario.
You don't somehow think that posing this question to Sid Ganis will bring about a New Age of Thoughtful Reflection to sweep over the Oscar selection process-do you?
If you really want to learn the answer to your query, I'm pretty sure you're smart enough, with just a bit of research into how the Academy picks winners, to come up with a reason as plausible as any Ganis could come up with. And it will be a lot closer to the truth than anything the president of the Academy would tell you.
"dammit"
Is it the pinnacle of film making? No. But it is worth seeking out and watching.
Having the answers to the questions available because of his life experiences gives a look at the humanity within Jamal and every human being, regardless of circumstances, position or caste, you seem to have missed this silent/non overt commentary on the caste system contained within this film.
By the way, the game show part of the plot not only examines the precarious existence of many in the so called 'Third World' but also the random nature of existence for all of us to some degree.
Oh and Muslim/Hindu violence is a huge problem in India as is the caste system, to point to one or the other and declare it "the real problem" is simplistic at best.
J.B.
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How many people in India can define their life experiences by the questions on a western game show? Zero. The idea is idiotic. How it ever got made into a book, let alone a movie, let alone an oscar winner is a travesty.
"Silent/non overt commentary on the caste system"? That's the stupidest analysis I've ever heard.
As for the problem with Muslim/Hindu violence, the problem is not Hindus. I've traveled extensively in the third world, including Nepal. The 85% Hindu majority there get along swimmingly with the 15% Buddhist minority. So let's not pretend. We know damn well why India has had nonstop violence since the advent of Islam, culminating in the split of Pakistan which then fought three wars against India, losing them all, and resorting to terrorism. Most recently an attack in Mumbai, turning its biggest hotels into infernal bloodbaths. Tell me when the brits intend to make an honest movie about what really goes on in Mumbai. It's not a fucking game show. And when young muslims go out in a blaze of suicidal insanity screaming "God is great" it's not for redemption, it's for terrorism. Everything about this movie was disgusting.
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You ever hear the saying "It takes two to tango"? That describes the Muslim/Hindu relationship in India quite nicely, pinning the blame on one or the other group is a recipe for continuing the current strife in India and is the sign of an uninformed (or deeply biased) observer.
As I have noted a couple of times on the Outside I've been to India twice and I would never try to translate that experience to Nepal because it just doesn't wash.
"That's the stupidest analysis I've ever heard" Actually I would say that perfectly describes your take on 'The Dark Knight'...but seriously perhaps the next time someone makes a film like Slumdog they will telegraph every little thing and that way perhaps you will enjoy (understand) it more.
J.B.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
Serves them right!
The academy would not decorate an Indian-made film with upteen Oscars.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
Please check the director credit at the link.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
Boyle was "co-director" with Loveleen Tandan.
go ahead and ask yourself why boyle was involved in the first place and eventually you'll come to the right conclusion.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
Seems like a good mix.
You forgot the second half of the sentence.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
and your history of anti-Islam vitriol is record.
The fact that you don't just proves you really don't care how people are treated in the world.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
Do you want to include aaaaall Indian films?
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