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I meant in the past. After the heyday of Pacino/DeNiro/Nicholson,

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In Reply to: RE: "�but we're talking iconic stars, world-wide, aren't we?" posted by David Aiken on January 22, 2011 at 15:07:20

the American star factory died.
From experience, I can tell you that in S. America, the American film industry stars, even though Brazil and Argentina had many of their own, shone far brighter.
At any time during the 20th century, you could go to an Italian city and mention a number of American actors and they would be known and beloved. Outside of a few sex bombs, Lolabrigida and Loren, the same wouldn't happen here. Same in France. England would be a bit different because of the cross-pollenation.
Now that I think of it, however, American blockbuster films still outperform most native films in most countries. Ahnie Terminator films; the Batmans; Spidermans. I don't know if the actors, outside of the Gov, are very well known, but the films are. The Rambo films also were world-wide sensations as were the Die Hard ones.

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But...those actors are all post-studio era stars. - Harmonia 14:16:00 01/24/11 (2)
Nicholson, Pacino and DeNiro were not honed and polished by the studio system but became stars during the "second golden age" of Hollywood when the young lions - Scorsese, Cappola et al - were breaking out using studio financing but in essence and style were "independent" filmmakers.

These directors were influenced by the Europeans (ahem), especially French new wave and Italian neo- realists, as well as classic American films.

The above actors were very much in the anti-hero mode.
- I just don't see Depardieu quite making those guys' level. Or any other actor. Heck, I'll throw in - tinear 19:10:17 01/24/11 (1)
  Dustin and Beatty, too....
  And I'm sure you know the French and Italian auteurs heavily were influenced by American directors and films.
  - Making al Pachino's level? You must mean dropping to his level. - Victor Khomenko 09:48:56 01/25/11 (0)
    I just don't know how could anyone consider that one-trick pony a good actor. Depardieu, OTOH, has not been just super-prolific, he gave us some truly fine acting.

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