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(in no particular order)
Repo Man
Alien
Blade Runner
The Day the Earth Stood Still
Metropolis
Stalker
Road Warrior
Cube
Starship Troopers
Clockwork Orange
2001
Any one of these is as "deep" as "Alien." Not to knock it, but it's certainly nothing more than very good entertainment. The genre has more than a few films just as entertaining but with far more intelligent content.
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Starship Trooper? Are you serious. That was a bunch of special effects laden mindless drivel. Substantially different and worse than the novel it was based on.
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...a beautiful mess, with a buff James Spader and Angela Bassett - a guilty pleasure.
No love for Ken Russell's Altered States either, I see.My faves, in alphabetical order:
2001
Abre los ojos (Open Your Eyes, Alejandro Amenabar)
Alien
Altered States
Andromeda Strain
Blade Runner
Brazil
Children Of Men
Dark City
The Day The Earth Stood Still
Forbidden Planet
Gattica
La Jete
The Man Who Fell To Earth
Metropolis
Moon
Quatermass & The Pit (Five Million Years To Earth US)
Silent Running
Solaris (Tarkovsky)
Stalker (Tarkovsky)
VideodromeI have yet to see The Man From Earth, so that could potentially make this list. Feel like I left something out but I dunno what it might be.
Some day I'd like to see a kiwi film called The Navigator again. Saw it 15-20 years ago on cable and was rather taken with it.
Galaxy Quest and Back To The Future are great comedies, and I guess they could be classified as SF. I love Bride of Frankenstein, but don't consider it SF...although it was in the day...I'd classify it in the horror/fantasy genre.
My favorite guilty pleasure is The Hidden, I love it so much I even have the Collector's Edition DVD. I'd classify several Star Trek movies as guilty pleasures as well - Wrath Of Khan, Journey Home...I enjoyed the 2009 Star Trek in the theater a lot. Don't own any of them, however. I also enjoyed Serenity, mainly because I was a loyal Firefly viewer. I need to catch up on Battlestar Gallactica, just saw the first few eps.
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"The Navigator" is a good choice I had forgotten about!
The main character was the killer.
Worse, the premise was not especially honest, either.
You wouldn't need restrictions. We don't have them now,
and they we need them even less than we do.
I had a number of bones to pick with that flick.
I could also put The Island on my list. Neat concept, neat car (for a Caddy particularly), good chases, and action, and Scarlett looks pretty good in this movie (I almost see what the fuss about her is after watching this).
"My favorite guilty pleasure is The Hidden"
Yea, despite being 80's schlock, you just gotta love it. :-)
Its got hookers, Ferraris, lots of gun play, aliens and ray guns.
Fun movie.
Jack
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The dinner scene.Michael Nouri's cop invite's Kyle MacLachlin's alien over to dinner...Nouri's wife asks K Mc where he's from and he replies with something barely pronouncable by human tongue. Asked where that is and he points up with his index finger. Given aspirin for his reaction to alcohol, Mc is clueless what to do with it.
The Hidden is a genuine "B" SF movie that's fun and trashy. As you say, excellent cast, fast cars, loud music, strippers, great good guys, a cute dog (Mike the Dog from Down & Out in Beverly Hills) and a slimy alien who changes bodies like some people change clothes - what's not to love? Never saw the sequel, TH's perfect as it is, even surprisingly moving at the end.
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Been a favorite of mine since it came out, I love the opening car chase!
Baba-Booey to you all!
That ET knew what he liked.
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Baba-Booey to you all!
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Because you mentioned it. Its been a while, so it was fun again. :-)
Jack
I really have a soft spot for this movie...and of course my other favs are Alien, T2, Forbidden Planet, original War/Worlds, and District 9(the weapons were just too cool)
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Haven't seen it recently, but saw it upon original release as a kid & greatly enjoyed it.
Blade Runner and Aliens tops my list.For pure entertainment value I have to go with the Fifth Element.
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reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.
Here's a few....
Primer
Back To The Future
Timecrimes
Twelve Monkeys
Le Jetee
Terminator
Donnie Darko
Time Bandits
Slaughterhouse Five
Superman
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ST wouldn't make my list by a long shot. I'd go with (not necessarily in this order):
The Thing (remake)
Alien
District 9
Planet of the Apes (original)
Star Wars (original)
Cloverfield
Fifth Element
Star Trek (2009)
Blade Runner
War of the worlds (remake, never seen the original)
I Robot
You really owe it to yourself to see the original.
Jack
Avatar, Chronicles of Riddick, Donnie Darko, The Fifth Element, Wall-E, 9?
And dont forget Buckaroo Banzai!!!
What about SciFi channels' "Battlestar Galactica"?
Jurassic Park had its day in the sun too (tho its characters were a bit annoying - the book Rocked!)
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Would have been more accurate title. And they would have made a lot more money.
I believe the original book from Colin Wilson (is that right) was called 'The Space Vampires'.
"Lock up when you're done and don't touch the piano."
-Greg House
Mathilda May is also jaw-dropping in "Becoming Collette"
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Of course that one scene is pretty cool....and pretty gross! (I have it on vhs)
Baba-Booey to you all!
Barbarella!! Yes!!
Before she became Hanoi Jane. What a traitorous bitch.
MK
"I'd like to own a squadron of tanks"
haven't seen stalker, and I'm kind of neutral about Cube. Starship Troopers is on my list of 10 worst sic-fi movies. Like others, I would add Moon and Forbidden Planet.
Jack
Existenz, although it seems I'm the only one who loves it, is still one of my favorite movies. Virtual reality video games, based on messy biological ports rather than clean metal ones. Levels within levels, very much like Inception. Not to mention The Fly, Naked Lunch (maybe not sci-fi), Scanners, and Videodrome.
... is the all time greatest because it made the point that corporate greed defines the life cycle of humans it uses.For me "Alien" established an atmosphere, (or literally lack of it in space) creating a new benchmark in tone that has yet to be surpassed.
Just the opposite of the glamorously Technicolor "Forbidden Planet".
Oh, just had to add that Orwell's terrifying "1984" should be included too.
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Which would be more impressive in the amp forum I suppose.
The fantastic aural effects and basic concept of the out of control Id raise "Forbidden Planet" to a level above a curio, technicolor extravaganza methinks.
It hasn't aged all that well, but I'll bet the affect in the theater upon release was as impressive as
"Alien" was 23 years later (minus the "horror" aspect).
Tinear seems to be the only one around here that doesn't (can't?, won't?) appreciate Alien for the
masterpiece it is.
" Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination." -Michael McClure
...that I loved was that it gave us a strong female protagonist.
No funky buns, long dresses or rescue needed.
Forbidden Planet scared the crap out of me when I was young. I still think it holds up well, a classic. We'd certainly never have had Star Trek as it was without it.
I loved the music/soundscapes in Forbidden Planet as well - very forward thinking and new.
I guess the 50's view that space has beauty is lost in more modern dystopian films.
Art stands the test of time.
Its interesting, but not all that hot on its own.
Jack
I think it's a true SF classic, although I do have some problems with it.
As re: 2001 A Space Odyssey, the ending just kills the whole film for
me. It was absolutely goofy. BUT: the opening was just plain mind-
boggling. The rest of it was competent, and highly predictive of the
future. I do not view it as a classic, and I know I'm probably alone in
this regard.
MK
The Thing is one of all time fave sci-fi movies. Suspense, drama, action.... s'all agood, particularly for its day.
As for 2001, also agreed. I think it was an OK film, but not up to its rep, and the ending was simply odd.
You are missing a lot..
Not categorized as Sci-fi.
More genre horreur...
Metropolis, oui.
Who said so?
... but I think that it defines the genre: far reaching ramifications of the medical sciences gone too far.Fantastic story, and way ahead of its (and our?) times.
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Only an old dream.
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N/T
" Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination." -Michael McClure
Take THIS, you codger!
To torture me.
Right, Starship Troopers was a very deep movie, and Denise Richards is a starship pilot/still fun but Top 10?
Cube sucked.
No Silent Running?
Another vote for Moon
Yea, I know it's just 10, but those are worthy.
"I'd like to own a squadron of tanks"
Best pure Sci-Fi to come out in a long time.
Baba-Booey to you all!
I do like it when a SciFi movie does not wear its SciFi-ness on its sleeve... "Gerty" was one cool dude.
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Tin-eared audiofool, former fotografer, and terrible competitive-pistol shootist.
"Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted." Albert Einstein.
Im with you on
Bladerunner
2001
Alien (which could also be considered a horror film in outerspace)
Clockwork Orange
I would add
Children of men
Never let me go
The Planet of the apes
Quatermas and the pit
Star wars (original)
The Empire strikes back
Close encounters of the thirf kind
Godzilla (original Japanese version)
John Carpenter's The Thing
Invasion of the body snatchers (second version with Donald Sutherland)
The Terminator
Silent running
Forbiden Planet
The Andromeda strain
A boy and his dog
Soylent Green
Dark City
Invaders from Mars
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
maybe even more so given the premise of women no longer bearing children with such an abrupt cut off.
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...this list is a better one.
At least they provide a good justification for each selection.
The Day the Earth Stood Still
2001
A Clockwork Orange
Solaris
Dr. Strangelove
The Man From Earth
The Sacrifice
Not in my book. The blackest comedy ever made, yes.
MK
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A bit of a mess, but a glorious mess.
War of the Worlds...King Kong, Time machine (Rod Taylor) Forbidden Planet???
...which is not on the list of "Best SciFi Movies of All Time." It was visually pretty but the story was too mediocre in my book.
"A record unplayed is a record wasted!"
I had forgotten about Time Machine, Yvette Mimeaux was quite delectable in that
"I'd like to own a squadron of tanks"
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"Lock up when you're done and don't touch the piano."
-Greg House
Boring, to the "Nth" degree.
But Jennifer Connelly is nice to look at!
Was a total unknown, the studio wanted another actress.
Glad that idea got thrown out.
"Lock up when you're done and don't touch the piano."
-Greg House
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
real scifi is rare.
Contact, 2001, Andromeda Strain, that's about it.
As far as entertainment goes,
I'd add Aliens/a couple Star Treks/Galaxy Quest/the TV version of Hitchhiker's Guild to the Galaxy/Matrix/ the first two Predators/
Repo Man was forgettable, haven't seen Cube or Stalker.
For my dime, Contact was the best.
It Came From Outer Space 1953
The Monolith Monsters 1957
This Island Earth 1957
Sunshine 2005(?)
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