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• RE: The first Matrix was also a good one. Solaris not the fucked US version) - patrickU 03:18:56 07/05/12 (0)
  In Reply to: RE: A work of Genius. Ridley Scott don´t need to be jealous over Bergman. The final cut-- posted by patrickU on July 03, 2012 at 04:24:27

  Also a good contender.
  

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• took him five cuts but.... - Analog Scott 12:16:52 07/04/12 (4)
  In Reply to: RE: A work of Genius. Ridley Scott don´t need to be jealous over Bergman. The final cut-- posted by patrickU on July 03, 2012 at 04:24:27

  it is a great movie. however I would have to give the nod to 2001 as the greatest scifi movie of all time. Blade Runner maybe second. Scott has another top contender though. Alien.
  

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  • RE: took him five cuts but.... - Plinko 16:06:25 07/05/12 (0)
    In Reply to: RE: took him five cuts but.... posted by Analog Scott on July 04, 2012 at 12:16:52

    No doubt I love 2001. Did you see Stalker? Probably the best sci fi of all time if not film of all time.
    
    Tarkovsky is a guy who need not be jealous of Bergman. Scott? Ridley Scott is a cinematic infant compared to Bergman.
    

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  • RE: Well some painters- - patrickU 00:50:35 07/05/12 (2)
    In Reply to: RE: took him five cuts but.... posted by Analog Scott on July 04, 2012 at 12:16:52

    Made a life long dedication to the same theme over and over again.
    
    So what?
    

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    • RE: Well some painters- - Analog Scott 07:24:33 07/06/12 (1)
      In Reply to: RE: Well some painters- posted by patrickU on July 05, 2012 at 00:50:35

      Just poking fun at him. Not being a hater.
      

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      • RE: Well some painters- - patrickU 07:42:30 07/06/12 (0)
        In Reply to: RE: Well some painters- posted by Analog Scott on July 06, 2012 at 07:24:33

        Hating is a waste of time. ;-)
        
        

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• A pretentious POS, to put it mildly... (nt) - orejones 10:58:47 07/04/12 (3)
  In Reply to: RE: A work of Genius. Ridley Scott don´t need to be jealous over Bergman. The final cut-- posted by patrickU on July 03, 2012 at 04:24:27

  
  

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  • RE: Well too bad you do not have a clue about...nt - patrickU 11:20:16 07/04/12 (2)
    In Reply to: RE: A pretentious POS, to put it mildly... (nt) posted by orejones on July 04, 2012 at 10:58:47

    Nt
    

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    • RE: Well you first. ( A pretentious POS...) you should takes orders one after the other. Waiting...nt - patrickU 01:40:35 07/05/12 (0)
      In Reply to: RE: Well too bad you do not have a clue about...nt posted by patrickU on July 04, 2012 at 11:20:16

      nt
      

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    • Please enlighten me: I´m awaiting... (nt) - orejones 01:35:02 07/05/12 (0)
      In Reply to: RE: Well too bad you do not have a clue about...nt posted by patrickU on July 04, 2012 at 11:20:16

      
      

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• A perfect film....? - violinist3 23:49:00 07/03/12 (7)
  In Reply to: RE: A work of Genius. Ridley Scott don´t need to be jealous over Bergman. The final cut-- posted by patrickU on July 03, 2012 at 04:24:27

  You are right about the perfection (or near) of Bladerunner. From what Iv'e seen, a good gripping film does not need a convoluted script. My favorite films are fairly straight forward in story line and easy to understand.

  I haven't seen Promethius yet, but plan to. I expect it to be a mind twister but I'm planning to just go for the ride and see what happens.
  

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  • RE: It left far behind Kubrick Odyssey, who was an LSD trip with not much else. - patrickU 00:31:38 07/04/12 (6)
    In Reply to: RE: A perfect film....? posted by violinist3 on July 03, 2012 at 23:49:00

    A pseudo.
    
    
    

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    • RE: It left far behind Kubrick Odyssey, who was an LSD trip with not much else. - violinist3 03:01:41 07/04/12 (5)
      In Reply to: RE: It left far behind Kubrick Odyssey, who was an LSD trip with not much else. posted by patrickU on July 04, 2012 at 00:31:38

      Yea.... too spacey. Parts of it were quite realistic technicaly but that story was too metaphysical for me.
      

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      • RE: It left far behind Kubrick Odyssey, who was an LSD trip with not much else. - patrickU 05:20:47 07/04/12 (4)
        In Reply to: RE: It left far behind Kubrick Odyssey, who was an LSD trip with not much else. posted by violinist3 on July 04, 2012 at 03:01:41

        In the end an empty bag.
        

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        • RE: It left far behind Kubrick Odyssey, who was an LSD trip with not much else. - Jazz Inmate 09:39:49 07/04/12 (3)
          In Reply to: RE: It left far behind Kubrick Odyssey, who was an LSD trip with not much else. posted by patrickU on July 04, 2012 at 05:20:47

          I don't think it was empty at all. A harrowing, visually rich examination of the consciousness of faith.
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          • RE: It left far behind Kubrick Odyssey, who was an LSD trip with not much else. - patrickU 10:58:33 07/04/12 (2)
            In Reply to: RE: It left far behind Kubrick Odyssey, who was an LSD trip with not much else. posted by Jazz Inmate on July 04, 2012 at 09:39:49

            Have you seen it lately?
            
            
            

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            • Seen lately... - mpathus 21:52:55 07/04/12 (1)
              In Reply to: RE: It left far behind Kubrick Odyssey, who was an LSD trip with not much else. posted by patrickU on July 04, 2012 at 10:58:33

              You have a point:
              
              First un-watchable half: apes waiting for nothing to happen, so bored they bash each other's heads in. Excruciating.
              
              Second half: "evolved" apes grapling to climb over one another for the "prize", then epiphany. Puzzling yet gratifying too.
              
              Conclusion: With "humanity" nothing changes but the technology, but still there is no denying HAL; (that was groundbreaking cinema... "Daisy, daisy...").
              
              I think you're right about "Blade Runner" in that it has superior movement towards a finale that resonates more truly to convention. I love the poem prior to "time to die" - that was confession/communion and forgiveness to the Blade Runner, all in one - a magical moment.
              
              I'm looking forward to seeing this final cut; Vangelis is one of my favorites (still have all his albums)!
              

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              • RE: Seen lately... - patrickU 00:33:46 07/05/12 (0)
                In Reply to: RE: Seen lately... posted by mpathus on July 04, 2012 at 21:52:55

                You too.
                
                Absolutely and fully agree.
                

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• a terribly flawed film - mbnx01 09:47:52 07/03/12 (2)
  In Reply to: RE: A work of Genius. Ridley Scott don´t need to be jealous over Bergman. The final cut-- posted by patrickU on July 03, 2012 at 04:24:27

  It looks great, but the characters and exposition are seriously lacking.
  
  You don't notice this so much when you've seen it 8 times. But yeah....it's not a perfect film by any stretch.
  
  Much like 'Prometheus', another Ridley movie which looks great but is ultimately film of cardboard characters and badly plotted.
  
  
  
  
  "Lock up when you're done and don't touch the piano."
  -Dr. Greg House
  
  

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  • It's a very good film - eppis1 07:07:53 07/04/12 (0)
    In Reply to: RE: a terribly flawed film posted by mbnx01 on July 03, 2012 at 09:47:52

    It's a Chandler-esque detective story with the trappings of futuristic sci-fi. I thought the original PKD novel had a more interesting design, with compelling, humanistic characters (neatly developed for androids) Harrison Ford is so stiff it's hard to get behind him. Big and splashy Hollywood productions fall in love with themselves, to the detriment of a good story telling. To me, it's little different than a movie like "Hello Dolly;" you just add hovercraft and bounty hunters, rain VFX and put Streisand in a trench coat. She could chase Yves Montand around, and ruminate the fate of mankind. :)
    Still a pretty good film, no doubt.
    

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  • RE: Did you see the final cut? - patrickU 10:28:18 07/03/12 (0)
    In Reply to: RE: a terribly flawed film posted by mbnx01 on July 03, 2012 at 09:47:52

    It is by any means NOT flawed.
    

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• Great film, great cinematography. - Enophile 08:23:17 07/03/12 (3)
  In Reply to: RE: A work of Genius. Ridley Scott don´t need to be jealous over Bergman. The final cut-- posted by patrickU on July 03, 2012 at 04:24:27

  Too bad Tinear is on vacation, he could come poop on the movie to show his discernment!
  
  Blade Runner is in my top 10.
  
  Sean Young at her top babe form, too.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

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  • RE: Great film, great cinematography. - patrickU 08:40:08 07/03/12 (2)
    In Reply to: RE: Great film, great cinematography. posted by Enophile on July 03, 2012 at 08:23:17

    Top of what?
    
    Of all films? or in the genre...
    

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    • Does it matter? - Enophile 08:59:51 07/03/12 (1)
      In Reply to: RE: Great film, great cinematography. posted by patrickU on July 03, 2012 at 08:40:08

      ;D
      
      
      
      
      
      
      

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      • RE: Does it matter? - patrickU 09:14:52 07/03/12 (0)
        In Reply to: RE: Does it matter? posted by Enophile on July 03, 2012 at 08:59:51

        No. You wrote about it. Top of...
        

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• 30 year old film - Jon L 08:09:20 07/03/12 (10)
  In Reply to: RE: A work of Genius. Ridley Scott don´t need to be jealous over Bergman. The final cut-- posted by patrickU on July 03, 2012 at 04:24:27

  It's hard to believe, but it was released 30 years ago in 1982. Sci Fi as a genre seemed so promising, largely unfulfilled IMO.
  

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  • "Sci Fi as a genre seemed so promising, largely unfulfilled IMO" - violinist3 02:53:18 07/04/12 (3)
    In Reply to: RE: 30 year old film posted by Jon L on July 03, 2012 at 08:09:20

    I feel the same way. Blade runner, Outlands,and Alien were going to be the beginnings of a great art form (it apeared to be). It just never seemed to develop and nobody continued to make good sci fi. It seems the genre was morphed into action/horror. I would think Heinlin,Bradbury,Clark etc. were disapointed too.
    

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    • Sci fi is only interesting when it merges with philosophical, ethical or political dilemmas - Jazz Inmate 09:38:08 07/04/12 (2)
      In Reply to: RE: "Sci Fi as a genre seemed so promising, largely unfulfilled IMO" posted by violinist3 on July 04, 2012 at 02:53:18

      To me, Dune will always be the ultimate sci fi book, and no screen treatment will ever do it justice.
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      • RE: Sci fi is only interesting when it merges with philosophical, ethical or political dilemmas - mpathus 21:05:02 07/04/12 (1)
        In Reply to: RE: Sci fi is only interesting when it merges with philosophical, ethical or political dilemmas posted by Jazz Inmate on July 04, 2012 at 09:38:08

        Yes. "Dune" is like a derivative "Lawrence of Arabia", just more so.
        

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        • RE: Sci fi is only interesting when it merges with philosophical, ethical or political dilemmas - Jazz Inmate 21:53:34 07/04/12 (0)
          In Reply to: RE: Sci fi is only interesting when it merges with philosophical, ethical or political dilemmas posted by mpathus on July 04, 2012 at 21:05:02

          Dune went beyond sci fi, politics or even religion. It mastered all of those genres and went beyond them. The way the "spice" was brought into the plot as a multifaceted symbol and impacted different peoples was a stroke of genius.
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  • RE: 30 year old film - patrickU 08:42:27 07/03/12 (5)
    In Reply to: RE: 30 year old film posted by Jon L on July 03, 2012 at 08:09:20

    Well this one did deliver! On all fronts.
    Not only science fiction.
    
    The only lethal error ( almost..hehe ) was to put a date in the entry of the film.
    
    Would has been much better to write, something like " S-F in the future...
    
    The rest is perfect.
    

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    • The monolith to me was a prophesy of the coming of robotica - violinist3 14:30:39 07/04/12 (4)
      In Reply to: RE: 30 year old film posted by patrickU on July 03, 2012 at 08:42:27

      Since it is nearly impossible and potentially hazardous to send men on a space trip for many light years, sending robots to collect information seems like an eventuality technically. These robots will become so advanced that they will replace astronauts eventually.
      
      The monolith was a robotic scientist collecting information on Earth. If the people wanted to see it as some god then fine.
      

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      • RE: An empty egocentric LSD trip. nt - patrickU 00:34:57 07/05/12 (3)
        In Reply to: RE: The monolith to me was a prophesy of the coming of robotica posted by violinist3 on July 04, 2012 at 14:30:39

        nt
        

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        • RE: An empty egocentric LSD trip. nt - violinist3 00:59:46 07/05/12 (2)
          In Reply to: RE: An empty egocentric LSD trip. nt posted by patrickU on July 05, 2012 at 00:34:57

          Too bad the final result was that way...with some work on the script it could have been a lot better.
          
          'Contact' went a bit far with wormholes. That's merely in the theoretical realm.If Sagan didn't go on that wormhole trip he would have had to go on to a different story. For instance the message in the signals could have the plans for a fusion reactor, but that would not be as fun.
          

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          • RE: An empty egocentric LSD trip. nt - patrickU 01:19:18 07/05/12 (1)
            In Reply to: RE: An empty egocentric LSD trip. nt posted by violinist3 on July 05, 2012 at 00:59:46

            Contact? you mean that merde a la Hollywood with the worst actress of the last ten years( Before she could manage to do some thing..)
            
            Can that be?
            

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            • RE: An empty egocentric LSD trip. nt - violinist3 01:24:23 07/05/12 (0)
              In Reply to: RE: An empty egocentric LSD trip. nt posted by patrickU on July 05, 2012 at 01:19:18

              Hmmm...yes J.F. is a stiff actress. Now I know why her 'love scenes' seemed a bit fake.
              

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