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Okay, I saw it at a nice, large theater with digital projector, but not IMAX. Perhaps with IMAX they went over the top with the sound effects or they toned it down because I saw it just last Sunday and understood all the dialogue.
I thought the movie was fantastic. The classic male hero tale with the hero stripped of everything, and I mean, everything. He loses his strength, health, wealth, dignity, heck, even his memory of love from Tom C's Ex's replacement. Then this broken husk of a cripple rises from the ashes of his despair with a vengeance. I would like to know how he recovered from that arthritis though.
Catwoman was good, though predictable. Now is it just me? Or did they imply she was a switch hitter?
The big surprises stunned me at the end. I tend to get lost in movies and try enjoy the ride without too much critical thought, so I was bamboozled.
Of course, Marion Cotillard was a real treat.
We'll have to agree to disagree about global warming until the next global cooling scare comes along
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there were a few bright spots (courtesy of Anne Hathaway)
Bale has always been a robot to me, a snob really...
I prefer Joseph Gordon-Levitt who is at least earnest
shoulda seen TED
not so much the movie taking itself too seriously as it was the movie makers taking the Batman franchise into a new area where the whole concept of it might be actually (almost) plausible. Perhaps into the realm of science fiction.
Yeah. It was a serious attempt to make a serious trilogy of Batman movies.
Me. I give it kudos for trying and succeeding.
-Steve
maybe I just don't like the attempt to be serious
In general I do not think graphic novels translate to the big screen very well. You can forgive all sorts of shortcomings in a 20 page book where your imagination fills in the blanks but when it comes time to see things 'real time' on a big screen it falls short.
for me at least...
it was revealed who the mastermind behind Bane was. I thought that was an interesting plot twist.I cared when Alfred abandoned Bruce Wayne. And then to see Wayne beaten by Bane and taken to that dungeon on the farthest end of the planet.
We knew that Wayne would eventually escape, but I cared when he did.
I cared when Gordon escaped from Bane's henchmen.
I cared when Selina decided to stay and fight for the cause rather than turn away and escape to save herself.
But so far I have failed to address your question. Did I care about anything that was said. I guess I'd have to say that I don't recall that much dramatic dialogue. Except unless you count some of the scenes with Michael Caine's character Alfred. And perhaps it may ring a bit hollow there. Myself I can never bring myself to understand how a butler can feel too much loyalty for his/her employers. It is too much like slaves adoring their masters. (not) Or perhaps dogs showing loyalty to their owner/masters.
So no. I can't recall any good dramatic dialogue. On the other hand, this movie isn't about dialogue. It is about action. In fact there is a line spoken by Rachel in the first movie, Batman Begins: "It's what we do that defines us". And all three movies adhere to this. It is what all the characters -do- that counts. Not so much what they say. Lots of doing. Not so much talking about doing.
Anyway. It is just a comic book. (I don't really see "graphic novels" as anything more than comic books.)To sum; I don't take it too seriously. But I was willing to allow myself to escape into that story. On the other hand, I won't go back to see it again. I've seen enough.
-Steve
Edits: 08/04/12
.........bladder control. Hey, it's a long movie;-)! The medium coke ($5.25 please!)was probably not the wisest choice.
I saw it in a small venue multi-plex. Regal Cinema. Sound effects were loud but the theater had it a notch below the pain threshold for me. There were no problems in this theater understanding dialog.
There was one thing about Wayne/Batman that didn't seem to add up. Or perhaps just wasn't explained well. Otherwise I had no problem suspending my disbelief.
The revelation of plot twists arrived in time to pique interest as the movie headed toward its conclusion.....and Gotham to its fate!.
I'll have to say the first movie in this trilogy, Batman Begins, was for me the best movie of the bunch. The 2nd movie, The Dark Knight,I put alongside this final installment as being roughly on the same excitement level.
Whatever the case, my short attention span was not tested. I stayed in the grips of the story telling throughout. All in all, I'll give it a thumb's up. Worth seeing if you enjoyed the first and 2nd movies.
-Steve
Good review, but you forgot to mention what didn't add up.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
a spoiler. Of which I've already posted too many above.
Oh what the h. The movie has been out for two weeks and complete synopsis can be found around the web.
What caught my eye was the physical condition of Wayne as seen and even explained at the beginning of the film. In fact there are medical X-rays taken of his legs that are meant to demonstrate to us that his cartilage in the knees is completely gone....making it extremely painful for him to walk around. So when Wayne does move around, he does so with the assist of a cane. So part of his reclusive behavior is explained by his crippling condition.
Then as the plot develops we see Wayne get interested, again, in his Batman alter ego. And then where does he go but to consult with Lucius about any new "toys" that he may utilize in his Batman activities. One of those toys appears to be a prosthetic device to help his condition with the knees. Afterward we see him wearing the device, which appears to be a rather mundane knee brace. Nothing high tech. No active suspension. No bionics.
In the next action scene we see 'Batman' making an appearance on the street and he seems to get around just as normally as in the past. That is to say he gets around with the demeanor of a "ninja"......with extreme agility and athletic prowess.
That's what doesn't add up for me. But then this is the movies 2012.
-Steve
I thought there was something advanced about the brace--it was featured in one scene and seemed to have been used in redesigning and upgrading the bat suit so that it was actually integrated into the suit, allowing batman to function on a higher level. The fact that Wayne was reclusive for years meant that his muscles atrophied. I know from personal observation that people who let their quads atrophy have knee problems that are often corrected by simply being more active and strengthening the quads.
I found the "no more cartilage" schtick to be silly because if you have no more cartilage in your knee you are screwed to a much greater degree than just needing a cane to get around. Cartilage is a very substantial tissue. It can get compressed or worn, but it doesn't just vanish. But I let it go. Suspending disbelief is always required in a superhero film. I think we're both in agreement to let the story take you away and not get caught up on the believability of little details.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
I thought there was something advanced about the brace--it was featured in one scene and seemed to have been used in redesigning and upgrading the bat suit so that it was actually integrated into the suit, allowing batman to function on a higher level. The fact that Wayne was reclusive for years meant that his muscles atrophied. I know from personal observation that people who let their quads atrophy have knee problems that are often corrected by simply being more active and strengthening the quads.
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Right. I recall the scene and that there was some discussion regarding the brace/prosthetic. But perhaps in the one viewing I can only absorb so much detail. Especially in a film with so much 'visual' input being thrown at us.
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I found the "no more cartilage" schtick to be silly because if you have no more cartilage in your knee you are screwed to a much greater degree than just needing a cane to get around. Cartilage is a very substantial tissue. It can get compressed or worn, but it doesn't just vanish. But I let it go. Suspending disbelief is always required in a superhero film. I think we're both in agreement to let the story take you away and not get caught up on the believability of little details.
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yes. The story was good enough to take me along for the ride even if some of the details could in actuality defeat the entire premise. So I was happy enough to suspend my disbelief for 2-1/2 hours or thereabouts.
Good flick. I hope Nolan keeps making this kind of stuff.
-Steve
I think it was made just after Batman Begins, with some of the same cast including Bale and Caine. Nolan's work at its absolute finest.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
I may have to view this one again. I know I enjoyed it but my memory of the film isn't good with me except to note certain aspects of the film. Two "magicians" in competition with one another about what I can't remember. ButI think I recall that it ends in murder. Oh, and somehow into the mix is Nicola Tesla. I always like it when historical figures get tied into a fiction novel.
I also recall a film from a similar period and subject matter called "The Illusionist". I enjoyed that one as well. This film had elements of class struggle between the ruling monarchy ( a prince as the bad guy) and one of its subjects (an illusionist) mixed into the plot. Edward Norton, Jessica Biel and Rufus Sewell. Anyway, we saw "smoke and mirrors, a murderous prince as well as a forbidden/star-crossed love affair in this one.
Jessica Biel is certainly nice on the eyes in The Illusionist. Of course in the above film, "The Prestige" we had Scarlett Johansson as eye candy and love object. Who can resist?!
Good stuff.
-Steve
It's Nolan's masterpiece. The Illusionist was not in the same league. The Tesla character, played by David Bowie, introduced as a diversion, plays a magic trick on one of the rival magicians. Brilliant on many levels.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
You know, Left-wing Conspiracy?
God, I hope not. That was one of the stupidest posts I've ever read here!
I found the movie to be dull, I just didn't care. I guess I'm not really into the Superhero thing.
They transcend the genre, and they each have their own arc that ties into a bigger arc. I thoroughly enjoyed TDKR. Look forward to getting it on blu-ray.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
...he was the one who brought it up.
You must have seen this down below...
More spoilers.... nobody can read any of these posts unless they've seen the movie. :)
Great movie. There were a couple scenes where I had a bit of a tough time hearing certain words, but nothing of any concern.
The big surprise to me was Miranda. We did not see that coming.
I figured the rookie cop would turn out to be Robin about 2/3 of the way through the movie. Caine was good if not a tiny bit dramatic, Freeman was solid as expected. Batman's voice still sounds a bit overdone to me. Catwoman was fine for the most part, not entirely sure the role suited her; but I liked her far better than Halle.
It was obvious Wayne didn't die in the end, and the scene where Caine saw Wayne was expected but fine. I'm really nit-picking here; this was a great fun movie. See it.
...as far as surprises go, I was surprised that the movie was advertised as the final segment of the Batman Trilogy as in...Why would they let a successful franchise end at only three? Well, it appears that the franchise will indeed continue but with new characters.
character, a little mysterious, played it not too straight, was intriguing.
Caine? Sometimes Michael needs a strong director to reign in his "great emotional moments."
Nolan didn't.
He should have.
This film was a good 45 minutes too long. One can only take so many HUGE climaxes in one sitting. More isn't.... more.
...it's Batman that has ZERO personality, not Bale. He was great as Jim Hawkins.
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and her cat-like costume was downplayed to tiny ears making her more of a real person and not a caricature of the stereotypes before her.
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...I could understand most everything and it seemed like Bain's voice was pretty loud so perhaps they fixed it.
I thought the film was pretty good for a comic book film, but not great.
There were a few inconsistancies, though, besides the arthritis in his knee that appeared to be cured by a brace.
It looked like Bain broke his back but it only needed a chiropractic adjustment.
How did he survive a nuclear bomb?
Oh well, if you can suspend your belief enough for that, the rest is easy.
Remember? Batman fixed the auto pilot.
We'll have to agree to disagree about global warming until the next global cooling scare comes along
The knee was helped with the brace, not fixed. Somehow, when rebuilding his mojo in the hole, his knee was fixed because he could run, climb and make that "leap of faith."
We'll have to agree to disagree about global warming until the next global cooling scare comes along
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