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In Reply to: RE: the biggest problem I had with it was............. posted by user510 on August 02, 2012 at 15:04:41
Good review, but you forgot to mention what didn't add up.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
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a spoiler. Of which I've already posted too many above.
Oh what the h. The movie has been out for two weeks and complete synopsis can be found around the web.
What caught my eye was the physical condition of Wayne as seen and even explained at the beginning of the film. In fact there are medical X-rays taken of his legs that are meant to demonstrate to us that his cartilage in the knees is completely gone....making it extremely painful for him to walk around. So when Wayne does move around, he does so with the assist of a cane. So part of his reclusive behavior is explained by his crippling condition.
Then as the plot develops we see Wayne get interested, again, in his Batman alter ego. And then where does he go but to consult with Lucius about any new "toys" that he may utilize in his Batman activities. One of those toys appears to be a prosthetic device to help his condition with the knees. Afterward we see him wearing the device, which appears to be a rather mundane knee brace. Nothing high tech. No active suspension. No bionics.
In the next action scene we see 'Batman' making an appearance on the street and he seems to get around just as normally as in the past. That is to say he gets around with the demeanor of a "ninja"......with extreme agility and athletic prowess.
That's what doesn't add up for me. But then this is the movies 2012.
-Steve
I thought there was something advanced about the brace--it was featured in one scene and seemed to have been used in redesigning and upgrading the bat suit so that it was actually integrated into the suit, allowing batman to function on a higher level. The fact that Wayne was reclusive for years meant that his muscles atrophied. I know from personal observation that people who let their quads atrophy have knee problems that are often corrected by simply being more active and strengthening the quads.
I found the "no more cartilage" schtick to be silly because if you have no more cartilage in your knee you are screwed to a much greater degree than just needing a cane to get around. Cartilage is a very substantial tissue. It can get compressed or worn, but it doesn't just vanish. But I let it go. Suspending disbelief is always required in a superhero film. I think we're both in agreement to let the story take you away and not get caught up on the believability of little details.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
I thought there was something advanced about the brace--it was featured in one scene and seemed to have been used in redesigning and upgrading the bat suit so that it was actually integrated into the suit, allowing batman to function on a higher level. The fact that Wayne was reclusive for years meant that his muscles atrophied. I know from personal observation that people who let their quads atrophy have knee problems that are often corrected by simply being more active and strengthening the quads.
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Right. I recall the scene and that there was some discussion regarding the brace/prosthetic. But perhaps in the one viewing I can only absorb so much detail. Especially in a film with so much 'visual' input being thrown at us.
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I found the "no more cartilage" schtick to be silly because if you have no more cartilage in your knee you are screwed to a much greater degree than just needing a cane to get around. Cartilage is a very substantial tissue. It can get compressed or worn, but it doesn't just vanish. But I let it go. Suspending disbelief is always required in a superhero film. I think we're both in agreement to let the story take you away and not get caught up on the believability of little details.
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yes. The story was good enough to take me along for the ride even if some of the details could in actuality defeat the entire premise. So I was happy enough to suspend my disbelief for 2-1/2 hours or thereabouts.
Good flick. I hope Nolan keeps making this kind of stuff.
-Steve
I think it was made just after Batman Begins, with some of the same cast including Bale and Caine. Nolan's work at its absolute finest.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
I may have to view this one again. I know I enjoyed it but my memory of the film isn't good with me except to note certain aspects of the film. Two "magicians" in competition with one another about what I can't remember. ButI think I recall that it ends in murder. Oh, and somehow into the mix is Nicola Tesla. I always like it when historical figures get tied into a fiction novel.
I also recall a film from a similar period and subject matter called "The Illusionist". I enjoyed that one as well. This film had elements of class struggle between the ruling monarchy ( a prince as the bad guy) and one of its subjects (an illusionist) mixed into the plot. Edward Norton, Jessica Biel and Rufus Sewell. Anyway, we saw "smoke and mirrors, a murderous prince as well as a forbidden/star-crossed love affair in this one.
Jessica Biel is certainly nice on the eyes in The Illusionist. Of course in the above film, "The Prestige" we had Scarlett Johansson as eye candy and love object. Who can resist?!
Good stuff.
-Steve
It's Nolan's masterpiece. The Illusionist was not in the same league. The Tesla character, played by David Bowie, introduced as a diversion, plays a magic trick on one of the rival magicians. Brilliant on many levels.
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We must be the change we wish to see in the world. -Gandhi
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