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In Reply to: RE: So how many of you saw the finale of Breaking Bad last night? (Spoiler Alert) posted by Raiderman on September 30, 2013 at 10:37:38
"Deus ex Machina" as pocket pussy. Verisimilitude out the window like
a used condom. Robert Forster was great, but even he could not save
the ridiculous fugitive schtick. Abysmally stupid ending for the best
show ever on TV. Vince fucked up. Too bad he did not consult me.
Regards,
J.R.
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With modern criminology WW would have been caught early on.Notice how there is no fingerprint evidence.
There has got to be a film out there with absolutely no holes in the story.I can't remember any.
. . . to a junior assistant who pointed out a logic flaw in one of Hitchcock's films, "Young man, don't be droll!".
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"To Do Is To Be" Socrates
"To Be Is To Do" Plato
"Do Be Do Do Be Do" Sinatra
(stolen from Thank You For Smoking), if a line or two of unaired dialog could reasonably explain the apparent inconsistency, then it's OK. Yer a smart guy, come up with those lines for us :)I had similar misgivings about how Walt knew exactly where to park his car at the meth facility so his machine gun could mow down the bad guys inside thgeir "office". Also, how he would know there would be a large window on the side of that particular building and not a cinder black wall, yada yada yada. Again, perhaps he reconnoitered(SP??) the place and that scene ended up on the editing floor or was never shot......
Other than a couple of inconsistencies like those, I think Vince did a credible job of bringing the series to a satisfactory close, but not in nearly the best episode of the season.
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Whatever roads he would have chosen would have been to no avail. Two
dead DEA agents. They would have been on him faster than a smirk on
Ted Cruz's face. The end as it spun out was not feasible. Regards,
J.R.
so no one could see it. When he and Jesse were about to die in the desert in season 1(2?), he got a dead RV started with a makeshift battery made from nickels, dimes, washers, and screws!! He Sirley had a driver's license, one would think Forster provided him immaculate credentials.
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Fake ID is a myth. And no fugitive would put himself is such an idiotic
position. The ole cabin in the woods: how trite. The whole Forster
trip was unrealistic nonsense. That takes nothing from Forster; he
played, as always, the role perfectly. Do you think Jeffrey will die in
the first or second episode of the next run for Game of Thrones?
Regards,
J.R.
an excruciatingly slow and horrifically painful death that consumes most of an episode.
We're re-watching Breaking Bad dvr'd from AMC's marathon. One could pick quite a few plot points and blow them up. The overall story so overwhelms it'd be nitpicking.
Walt got back from New Hampshire, yer just gonna have to deal with it. Perhaps he hung onto the transmission of a minivan a la Max Cady? With $9mm at his disposal I'm sure a new identity, one at least good enuf to get him on a freekin Greyhound, would have been feasible. Hell, Carrie got Brody a new one. Cabin in the woods, tract home in Arizona, what's it matter? He got out of Dodge.
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Let me just say that Jack Gleeson is going to get to show us his chops.
And you're right about BB: to haggle over plot points would be nitpicking.
My problem is with setting and verisimilitude: with the reality of the
show in other words. I've read over a dozen articles in the last week
by writers, actors, and persons associated with BB: they all claimed
loud and clear that reality was the governing dynamic in the making of
BB. I think they drastically failed their dynamic in this last episode.
Just a few examples: Living in an isolated house with no outhouse in the
middle of nowhere is not hiding; it's more like advertising your presence.
Secret compartment in a propane truck with out of state plates. Please.
And finally, these days every cop on the beat has acess to a computer
terminal and can check ID. Even for a million dollars you could not find
a driver's license. Nobody could except a government sanctioned agent.
For a show so concerned with reality, they blew it big time at the end,
though it's good to see that someone in addition to Tarantino appreciates
Robert Forster. Regards,
J.R.
Next time you're in Austin you'll want to eat at Sway:
But yeah, given that he was probably on the DEA's and FBI's list of most wanted, that they might have figured out that a stolen car in NH, which was the last known location of WW, just might be connected. But then again, if nobody reported it for a couple of days, he might have gotten away with it before the APB went out to every state.
I certainly wouldn't let that minor inconsistency ruin the end of a great show like BB for you.
He was being busted at a remote location in the wilds of NH. The cops
were there moments after he abandoned his drink. Him getting away was a
comic book fairytale at best. My dead grandmother could have caught
him. Major flaw, not a minor inconsistency. Fear not, though, I'm still
a fan. Regards,
J.R.
I live up in the Santa Cruz mountains, between San Jose and Santa Cruz, California. (Not quite as remote as NH, but definitely not a city or even suburbia.)
Now, there is this one deputy sheriff, (a female deputy I will point out and from now on I will refer to as Deputy Fife), who actually caught a murderer.
(Caught is a generous term, as she merely saw this guy walking down one of the side roads up near my house. And no, the guy was not exactly as smart as Walt - he more like Skinny Pete, Jesse's friend.)
Coincidentally the road looked a lot like the road that Walt's hideaway was on actually.)
Anyway, Deputy Fife had her gun drawn and was going to put the handcuffs on this guy. But then this guy saw the determined look in her eyes, much like the look her cousin Barney Fife had, he just smiled, turned around and ran away. She, in Fife like fashion, yelled "Stop!". Being a criminal, he did not comply.
Amazing, huh?! What a criminal mastermind, he was for not stopping! Anyway, she stood there for a bit, wondering what to do, when she finally decided that maybe, perhaps, she should call this in, so that someone, (Sheriff Andy perhaps?), could come out and find him, you know, what with him being a murderer in all.
So, when the real police came, they sealed all the roads in the area, for the next several hours, (preventing us from getting home until after dark). They had not caught him, but they eventually had to let the dozens of us homeowners in the area go home. Needless to say, I was not thrilled going into a house in the dark, although once I was in, you can bet your butt I went straight to the gun locker, got and loaded my handgun, and then searched my house. Thankfully, no murderer!
Anyway, the next day, the real police finally caught this guy. (How did he get away you ask?! Well, he was a criminal mastermind, so he climbed a tree. He stayed up in the tree all night.) Eventually he got cold enough, thirsty enough or hungry enough to climb down, THE NEXT DAY, and they finally caught walking down the road again.
(Again, not too smart! Had he come done at midnight and started walking he would easily have made it to the nearest town, a few miles away, and he'd haven gotten away.)
So, don't bother to tell me the police are that efficient. If it weren't that they were tracking a complete idiot, they never would have caught him. (And if Barney Fife had been the one to find him the next day, I'm sure he would have merely relieved her of her sidearm, and taken her vehicle.)
Walt was a federal fugitive with a warrant out dealing with two missing
and probably dead DEA agents. The road out would have been blocked by
professionals and a real SWAT team would have been brought in with dogs.
It was a stupid setup with a stupid resolution. What, did he astrally
project maybe to New Mexico; many claim they have. What kind of ID did
he have, like a driver's license? A silly and totally unrealistic end,
without a speck of verisimilitude. I expected better. Regards,
J.R.
I guess you put in the same bin the M60 machine gun, firing for minutes, non-stop, with no ammo belt, apparently making bullets out of thin air, as it went... in process hitting every intended target without even looking.
Geez... I wish our soldiers could shoot this well! :)
But then... "I certainly wouldn't let that minor inconsistency ruin the end of a great show..." :)
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