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"St. Vincent:" Bill should leave nasty that other Billy:

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Bob Thornton.
This character really doesn't deserve the title. And Murray looks really bad, physically. I don't think he put on all those pounds for this role; he needs a personal trainer or he ain't gonna make a lot more of nuthin.'
Melissa McCarthy shows she has a lot of depth; she plays a serious character and invests her with dignity and individuality.
SPOILER:
The takeaway from the film is that people will love you if you're an asshole to everyone--- as long as you're a decorated Vietnam vet and your wife has a serious illness.
It ain't so.

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This was a bitter-sweet film about a bad attitude . . . - Billy Wonka 16:15:21 10/31/14 (1)
with a good person behind it. The title is fully explained at the end and, yes, it does fit.

McCarthy didn't show so much depth as the fact she doesn't have to do outrageous comedy non-stop. Murray was good in this somewhat "real" story compared to all the other vehicles he has mugged and wisecracked through.

It took me decades to begin to like Murray. I recall when he first started SNL he had this perpetual smirk during sketches that reminded me of grade school kids thinking they're cute during skits. I actually thought he wasn't going to make it. Took him about three seasons to get over that. He wasn't ready for FDR but he IS ready for this role anytime.
- He did a bit on SNL... - mkuller 18:04:15 10/31/14 (0)
  ...after his first couple of shows, saying he was the new kid and he was really trying so give him a chance.
  
  It was off the wall and perfect - I've liked him ever since.
Tootsie was the one... - eppis1 05:48:25 10/31/14 (0)
...that seemed to me to be the perfect use for his skills. He didn't have to stretch to play a sardonic quipster. He had charm and you didn't need to see inside him. He wasn't the center of the movie, but he did kind of play the muse, or greek chorus. Too much Murray in a film kind of depresses me. I remember "Razor's Edge" as a turning point in his trajectory to whether he would be a great actor or great star. I don't think he's either. But he's no slouch. I see him as a great 2nd banana. Like Hope to Crosby. Just my windy opinion.
I loved this Film. nt - oldmkvi 08:12:33 10/30/14 (1)
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RE: "St. Vincent:" Bill should leave nasty that other Billy: - fantja 06:07:56 10/30/14 (0)
Laughing...
Billy Bob is nasty.

Loved BM in 'Lost in Translation'
Not Thornton... - mkuller 20:54:50 10/29/14 (0)
...he's replaced Jack Nicholson in those roles because Jack is too old.
Remember "As Good as it Gets"?

Edits: 10/29/14
He has never risen above the B level. - Victor Khomenko 14:25:54 10/29/14 (19)
Someone here compared him to Jack... what a joke!
- In "Lost in Translation," he was terrific! nt - tinear 15:17:31 10/29/14 (18)
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  - Yeah... a complicated role :-) - Victor Khomenko 17:29:02 10/29/14 (0)
    An OK performance, nothing more.
  - Not to mention The BrokenFlowers^ - Road Warrior 15:36:05 10/29/14 (16)
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    - Groundhog Day. Nt - geoffkait 15:45:08 10/29/14 (15)
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      - Caddyshack...(nt) - mkuller 20:56:05 10/29/14 (14)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Groundhog Day. Nt posted by geoffkait on October 29, 2014 at 15:45:08
        
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        Ghostbusters. Nt - geoffkait 05:11:49 10/30/14 (13)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Caddyshack...(nt) posted by mkuller on October 29, 2014 at 20:56:05
        
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        Stripes...(nt) - mkuller 08:07:36 10/30/14 (4)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Ghostbusters. Nt posted by geoffkait on October 30, 2014 at 05:11:49
        
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        Rushmore. Nt - geoffkait 04:55:33 10/31/14 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Stripes...(nt) posted by mkuller on October 30, 2014 at 08:07:36
        
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        What about Bob? Now, that was acting. Nt - geoffkait 10:20:26 10/30/14 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Stripes...(nt) posted by mkuller on October 30, 2014 at 08:07:36
        
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        Yes, funny, yet strange and almost disturbing, and, funny^ - Road Warrior 06:23:05 11/03/14 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: What about Bob? Now, that was acting. Nt posted by geoffkait on October 30, 2014 at 11:20:26
        
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        RE: What about Bob? Now, that was acting. Nt - pictureguy 10:59:28 10/30/14 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: What about Bob? Now, that was acting. Nt posted by geoffkait on October 30, 2014 at 10:20:26
        
        I think that generally the best comics transition to drama better than the other way 'round.
        
        Also, not all roles are 'oscar material'. Actors like WORK.
        
        Sandra Bullock received both Razzie AND an Oscar in the same week!
        Too much is never enough
        http://www.mtv.com/news/1633373/sandra-bullock-wins-best-act (Open in New Window)
        
        All B movies. nt - Victor Khomenko 06:00:04 10/30/14 (7)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Ghostbusters. Nt posted by geoffkait on October 30, 2014 at 05:11:49
        
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        He's a comedian, for pity's sake! Seldom do they get the "A" films. nt - tinear 08:00:08 10/30/14 (6)
        
        In Reply to: RE: All B movies. nt posted by Victor Khomenko on October 30, 2014 at 06:00:04
        
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        A comedian??? Then why is he so boring? nt - Victor Khomenko 09:10:07 10/30/14 (5)
        
        In Reply to: RE: He's a comedian, for pity's sake! Seldom do they get the "A" films. nt posted by tinear on October 30, 2014 at 08:00:08
        
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        You're Russian. Comedy is something that just doesn't go across cultures very well. nt - tinear 07:03:58 10/31/14 (4)
        
        In Reply to: RE: A comedian??? Then why is he so boring? nt posted by Victor Khomenko on October 30, 2014 at 09:10:07
        
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        That is always last refuge! :-) - Victor Khomenko 07:52:34 10/31/14 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: You're Russian. Comedy is something that just doesn't go across cultures very well. nt posted by tinear on October 31, 2014 at 07:03:58
        
        As the rule, the American comedies are of very low caliber, the humor often is either adolescent, or just plain dumb.
        
        With very few notable exceptions. But you can kick me now... I am your devoted messenger! :)
        
        C'mon, you've used the cultural card on here about Russian films! I agree, MOST - tinear 13:55:04 11/01/14 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: That is always last refuge! :-) posted by Victor Khomenko on October 31, 2014 at 07:52:34
        
        American comedies are adolescent, juvenile, puerile, or whatever you prefer. But a film like Murray's "Groundhog Day" wasn't. Nor was the bittersweet, "Lost in Translation." Or the Jarmusch one, though I'm not a fan of that director.
        Anyhow, like anything else in art, it's subjective. I like his persona, you don't. Big wheel keeps on turnin.'
        
        B is not for Bad. Just not A. - Victor Khomenko 16:08:28 11/01/14 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: C'mon, you've used the cultural card on here about Russian films! I agree, MOST posted by tinear on November 01, 2014 at 13:55:04
        
        Groundhog Day is not bad, I never said it was, but he is pretty plain in there, his acting uninspiring.
        The Lost in Translation is pure speculation - allegedly every man's last dream, which it isn't... it is akin to showing a cute child or a dog - you are guaranteed a passing grade. It is really Scarlett's movie, he is playing a supporting role, and he is OK, but not more that that.
        BTW, if you recall the treadmill scene, this is what I am talking about - the worst kind of cheap and silly American comedy.
        
        Edits: 11/01/14
        
        RE: you're Russian.-or a Snob. Euro-Ka-ka is better than ANY - oldmkvi 07:16:55 10/31/14 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: You're Russian. Comedy is something that just doesn't go across cultures very well. nt posted by tinear on October 31, 2014 at 07:03:58
        
        American Movie.
        I'll never know.
        Bill Murray is Unique.
        And It takes guts to be old and in close-up, man or woman.
        I never get tired of Ghost Busters, BTW!
He looked rather old and tired in Grand Budapest Hotel... - geoffkait 10:47:35 10/29/14 (0)
At least he was still recognizable. Unlike Harvey Keitel.

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