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Tried to watch it but ran out of patience a little over an hour and a half into it and turned it off. I'm aware that Tarantino follows his own muse and I usually find it entertaining but he totally lost me here. It went nowhere in the time I gave it. Could it be that he's getting a bit enamored with his own eccentricities?
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The appearance of a brick and mortar record store in any movie makes me cry.
I know they still exist today but they seem more ironic than sincere. : )
You should see the movie High Fidelity - that will make you blubber.
I want to go back to a time when I only had enough money to be forced to savor each and every last note of whatever album I bought.
The pilgrimage was just as fun. No GPS. The serendipity at Tower was off the charts because they were so unorganized.
And back then, odds were that it was 90% likely that my ignorant self would choose a title that was either a future classic or a masterpiece.
To rewrite the Tate murders with a "happy" ending. It didn't seem quite right.
You should have hung on. Great unexpected ending. If you grew up in the 60's/early 70's you really should like this one.
"Hateful Eight," "Inglorious Basterds" (sic), and this film: I enjoyed them all, but someone needs to call Quentin T on his continuing gratuitous violence against women.
In movies like Pulp Fiction or Reservoir Dogs, or the movies you mentioned.
I think he just kinda likes gratuitous violence period.
NT
This beautifully shot film is to be enjoyed on the big screen.
I can support a mans opinion, if you didn't like the movie very well, that's the way it goes sometimes.but I think you should have watched the entire film before attacking the man's ability at his work.
AS taranreno said in an interview, ideas are tough for him because the audience accepted all he had to say in his first movie. I guess that explains the hateful eight, were the title alone was enough to wave me off that film. I saw it later, at home. Meh , a modern take on a fifties war movie.
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I think I made it maybe to an hour before giving up.
We saw it during the theatrical run. We liked it, however we all felt it was about 30min too long, and would have benefited from additional editing. QT was an outsider director for a long time, and had to be creative within a limited budget. OUATIH was produced with a big budget and QT enjoyed spending it. Long scenes of nothing but meticulously recreated c1969 LA. Long tracking scenes of characters in action. And a dose of QT revisionist history.
The acting is excellent. Pitt doing his laconic alpha male persona initially felt rote, but fit the character very well. DiCaprio played a character with 3 dimensions. Depicted as an "actor", a normal person going about his life while on the verge of a mid life crisis, and then having to be an actor, while acting in a movie partly about acting. There were distinct characteristics around each portion of the role. Margarete Qualley- WOW ! There was criticism about Margo Robbie/Sharron Tate but her role was a bit of devilish misdirection. She functioned more as a surrogate for the audience slowly seeing their innocence slip away than an integral part of the story. The conceit was that we were set up for her to have a larger role. Bruce Dern's role was supposed to have been played by Burt Reynolds, but he passed away and Dern was brought it. His scene was short but effective- old Hollywood fading away and supplanted by nihilism feeding off of the decaying corpse. Pacino was good, but his character could have been played by any number of equally good actors....Dustin Hoffman, Andy Garcia and so on.
In a macro sense this movie also embraced what many LA/Hollywood Nostalgia movies seem to thrive on. It you stop for a moment, you can see the uncredited, non compensated, silent participant that is integral to creating the right vibe. No, it isn't random celebrities, kitschy or camp landmarks, or even historical events. No it is right there out in the open and all around. The Sun. Everything in this movie is touched by it, even the scenes set at night. Everything has a saturated sun drenched look and color palette. Everyone is tan. Everyone looks like they are going to or coming from a beach party. Everyone has a pool. Much is made of the temperature at night (a voice over during a critical part notes it was the hottest night of the year), and the haze etc during the day. Everyone squints when outside. QT gets that.
Is this his best movie. No. Is it his worst. NO ! Probably above average, but it will be remembered.
If you don't like a slow burn you won't like it.
It was my favorite movie of the year.
'A lie is halfway around the world before the truth gets its boots on'. -Mark Twain
It was a virtual tie for me for best film and I think it may be more appreciated in time. I liked it a lot better the second time. I say that a lot about his movies. I just re-watched Jackie Brown and thought that was better this time as well. It's a great movie - but as the review I noted below notes it is a 1960s kind of film with a 1960s kind of pace - and a modern audience might have trouble with that. A long attention span is required.
Well you should have watched the last half hour because it brings a lot of the film together. Enough to make me watch it a second time. Then it falls into place. I liked it a lot better on second viewing as a result.It's also not a film that is necessarily going to ignite Tarantino Fans. Indeed, the folks who have tended to like it most seem not to be fans of Tarantino because it's not like Pulp Fiction or Inglorious Bastards level of violence. Nor does it have their dialogue.
I have recently re-watched some of Tarantino's earlier works and I do understand why some people view Once Upon A Time in Hollywood to be his best film. It's quite different from his other films though so I also get why a lot of folks think it's one of his weakest.
This review was interesting to me
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I think that review is spot on.
I really enjoyed the film and it is my favorite by Tarantino.
Dean.
reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.
You may like - I think it is even better and far far more in depth but
It is dedicated to the end of the movie so as you have seen the movie - watch it but for those who have not it gives it all away
I like the review because it goes in depth on the characters their roles in history, and the choices Tarantino makes. I think a lot of folks will appreciate this film more with this analysis. Especially younger audiences who don't know the history of film, TV or the Manson Family.
This review even explains the title and the ... - well done I think.
SPOILERS
I will pass :-)
I enjoyed that.
You are right, it does give me greater appreciation of the film as I had not made all of the connections.
Dean.
reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.
seen one of his films and liked it... I have tried time and again when someone previously sees a movie of his and recommends it to me (most recently The Hateful Eight). NOW my son and many others are urging me to see Once Upon... as they know my interest in nostalgic Hollywood... His films almost ALWAYS have gratuitous violence in them which to me is pointless. I think that he is one sick puppy and I keep waiting for the day that the papers state some hideous story about him and devil worshipping or perverted acts with little girls and boys... would NOT surprise me in the least! I think I'm done with him, and will just sit back and wait for the headlines and say I told you so....
a Tarantino movie that I liked.... Once Upon A Time... was very enjoyable! Did it rock my world, no...but I did enjoy it. Pitt WAS good in it... as was DeCaprio (I am not a huge fan of his). Glad I watched it after friends and relatives twisted my arm...
Once Upon a Time is probably the second least violent of his movies. The Hateful Eight is incredibly violent and incredibly gory.How gory? There is a scene where the background music is from the movie The Thing (1982) one of the goriest movies in film history. Ennio Morricone Scored The Thing and The Hateful Eight. Kurt Russel starred in the Thing and The Hateful Eight. The former took place in Antarctica - the latter in a Blizzard and both films try to figure out who the Thing (Bad guy in Hateful Eight) is.
In fact the film that is probably the best for you to watch is Jackie Brown. It is not that violent and when it is it is not gory. The story is basically a caper movie about a Bail Bondsman who gets involved with a flight attendant who is bringing in drugs on her flights from Mexico and works with the cops to get the drug dealer. Double and triple cross sort of thing.
Samuel L Jackson feels it's Tarantino's best film. There is no gore and virtually all the violence is off camera. So when someone gets shot you don't see blood. So it's the least bloody film of his catalog.
Edit: In fact, I recall only 4 deaths in the entire movie and a trickle of blood from one. So for Tarantino that is pretty paltry.
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But it still doesn't help my negative opinion of The Hateful Eight. Viewing it was painful.
I stopped about 45 minutes in and never returned.
Never will - the story seemed moot and the acting third rate parody.
I like his other films.
OUATIH is outstanding, a tale well told.
The climax of the film is truly remarkable and... gratifying.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
I viewed the Hateful Eight just last week for the first time and I really quite enjoyed. Jennifer Jason Leigh is quite brilliant and there is so much going on as characters unfold as it moves along.
I rarely give up on movies because with Tarantino payoffs usually happen later in the picture which makes the first act a lot better.
I've only ever walked out of one movie - that was Star Wars: The Phantom Menace. A complete and utter shambles of a picture.
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