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In Reply to: RE: "The Twelve" - good court drama posted by Victor Khomenko on July 22, 2020 at 06:36:55
Thanks for the recommendation.
By the way: since I recall you appreciate Bela Tarr, he has very highly praised (and he doesn't go out of his way to do this very often to his fellow directors) the Chinese film by a young man (now deceased, unfortunately): "An Elephant Sitting Still." This film I put under the category of multi-viewing, i.e. it's complexity and synergy cannot be appreciated in one viewing. In one word, it is astonishing.
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I saw recently that back during the good ole days that some CEOs required staff and underlings to watch it for lessons on communication. Never thought about it from that angle.
Henry Fonda as Dale Carnegie?
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Unlike the old film, that takes place in one room, this one expands well outside the courthouse walls. There is constant interplay between the jurors' personal lives affecting their in-court behavior, and vice versa.
There are also retrospectives.
There is also no identifiable leader, so in some sense it is closer to everyday reality. And of course, as I already mentioned, a very different ending.
Plus, it is 8 or more hours long. We liked it. Ah, and yes, it streams on Netflix.
Yes, I love Tarr, and recently tricked my wife into watching The Man from London - I have seen it before, but enjoyed it.
That Chinese film - where can one see it?
Recently we have been watching many movies on YouTube. We used it before, but this time I realized you could use the internal to smart TV Youtube ap, which makes the whole experience many times better, and gives you very high quality. There are tons of foreign films there, of course many in their native languages.
P.S. Great, found it on Yourtube, in HD, with subtitles!
I can't get "The Twelve" come up on a Netflix search to save my life. So we watched Fear City instead - about the prosecution of Mafia leadership in NYC during the 80's, together with the background as to how the government built its case. Pretty good, we thought.
I'm still seeing 'Room In Rome' and 'Below Her Mouth' coming up from years ago. (Just kidding. Or am I?)
Edits: 08/02/20
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I was searching on "the twelve", and it would would never come up. Yesterday, I searched on "the 12" and voila! There it was, even though its actual name is. . . "The Twelve". Amazing.
Bi Gan's, "Kaili Blues" is indescribable. Is it noir? Then how to account for the absurdly beautiful colors? Is it a drama? Well, where is the plot line?
I think it's a poetic vision (Tarkovsky-like), but also a philosophical one: it functions like no other film in weaving together "present" with dreams and memories. An original work of art, and how often do you find such a thing!His next film, "Long Day's Journey into Night" is even more mesmerizing. Some characters reappear, though one need pay special attention to recognize them. Both films "make sense" though it takes some effort to do so because of the narrative structure. Of course, you could just enjoy the ride---- and that's what I recommend for the first viewing. The use of sound and music is, again, original.
Diao Yinan's "Black Coal, Thin Ice" is the best whodunit I've seen in many, many years. The style is utterly original (the Chinese simply are ahead of anyone else at this point) and the acting is so natural that it's hard to believe it's not a documentary. No facial tics, unnecessary eye movements, hand gestures--- all those Hollywood crutches one gets to wince at long before their necessary and anticipated appearance.
There is a S. Korean director who also is doing very new things--- but I'll wait for another occasion to bring him up.
Edits: 07/22/20
Unlike the old film, that takes place in one room, this one expands well outside the courthouse walls. There is constant interplay between the jurors' personal lives affecting their in-court behavior, and vice versa.
There are also retrospectives.
There is also no identifiable leader, so in some sense it is closer to everyday reality. And of course, as I already mentioned, a very different ending.
Plus, it is 8 or more hours long. We liked it. Ah, and yes, it streams on Netflix.
Yes, I love Tarr, and recently tricked my wife into watching The Man from London - I have seen it before, but enjoyed it.
That Chinese film - where can one see it?
Recently we have been watching many movies on YouTube. We used it before, but this time I realized you could use the internal to smart TV Youtube ap, which makes the whole experience many times better, and gives you very high quality. There are tons of foreign films there, of course many in their native languages.
I thought her style of over-the-top emoting and stylistic acting intrusive. Why Tarr agreed to her presence I don't know...
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