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In Reply to: RE: Right on! posted by PhilJ on February 09, 2021 at 06:53:31
. . . my attitude towards Bill is somewhat ambivalent - after all, he projects this kind of smarmy smugness, and he's drunk deeply at the Russiagate trough*. But when he's right, he's right! ;-)
*BTW, I'm still waiting for Putin to fulfill Rachel Maddow's prediction that he's going to turn off the gas and electricity to Iowa and the rest of the Midwest during the dead of winter. And then he won't turn it back on until we sign binding agreements to buy all our gas from Gazprom! I think she was even crying about this. ;-)
Ever ask yourself why Flynn would lie to the FBI? He's the guy who called for US military intervention so the election could be redone. Hmmmm... doesn't sound particularly American, does it?
. . . E-N-T-T-R-A-P-M-E-N-T? And. . . surprise! suprise!. . . that little disgraced deep state slimeball, Peter Strzok, was involved.
Flynn did nothing different (in terms of talking with representatives from foreign countries) from what other incoming administrations have done.
As for the elections being redone, I don't agree with him, but he's entitled to his opinion.
And by "one of those", I mean being one of those irrational and wacky right-wingers going on about that "evil Deep State".
You're better than that. Or at least should be.
Mark in NC
"The thought that life could be better is woven indelibly into our hearts and our brains" -Paul Simon
. . . in 1961? It's gotten WAY worse since then. Start at about 8:40.
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I guess I should congratulate the propagandists who have done such a great job in the MSM of convincing elements of the population that the deep state (i.e., the unelected military and its civilian suppliers and lobbyists, the state department, the plethora of intelligence agencies, the think tanks. . .) is some kookie idea thought up by wackos, even though the evidence is right before our eyes every day.
I also find it astonishing that the "left", which has traditionally been against our war-like and aggressive foreign policies, is (ever since Hillary lost in 2016) now best buds with all these agencies. Of course, we're not talking here about the real left - only the identity-politics corporate-controlled "left" which has had a choke-hold on the Democratic party ever since the (Bill) Clinton presidency in the '90's.
Aren't you sick of the endless wars which the deep state promotes, regardless of whether a Republican or Democratic administration is in power?
talking to a Russky. Do a search and read how much Flynn had going on with the Russians. Then consider proven Russian interference in the 2016 election. Now, put those together and consider what he said about scrapping this completely legitimate and judicially (as no election ever has been) blessed election to hold one with military supervision.
Not scared, yet?
Now, consider Flynn's brother also is a general and was directly responsible for National Guard deployment (or not).
. . . a link to "proven Russian interference in the 2016 election". Whatever this "interference" consisted of, do you think it was on the scale of this interference:
be argued. But that the Russian government DID in fact interfere?
I suppose you consider your own government's Justice Dept. "Deep State," right? I prefer to believe Alan Jones, myself.
. . . charges against Julian Assange. Yeah, I consider at least part of the Justice Department to be part of the Deep State. However, their policies wrt Assange could change once Merrick Garland gets in as Attorney General. (Garland - Obama's middle-of-the-road "innocuous" choice for the Supreme Court - seems to have a fairly decent record on free speech and the rights of a free press - we'll see. OTOH, he'll be obliged to pursue Biden's policies, which already conflict with some of Garland's previous rulings.) Meanwhile, Assange is rotting in Belmarsh Prison.
As for Mueller, he didn't defend his own report too well when he testified before congress, did he?
More. . .
this is really an unfortunate post
actually Chris it was, in addition to being unfortunate
I arrived at the unspoken logical conclusion, just not as you intended
your delusions have impaired your judgement
and that is unfortunate
Or just basic cleverness. Or all three? ;-)
ironically if you meant your OP to be funny I lost YOUR sense of humor
if you meant today's reply to be ironic instead of clever? success!
(Link below.) Did you lose track? Yeah, I thought it was pretty funny when Rachel Maddow was doing her best Glen Beck imitation and tearing up about Putin turning off the electricity in Iowa. But I guess that that's something you evidently take seriously. (BTW, were you saying something about "impaired judgment" in a couple of your other posts in this thread?)
ROTFLOL! So says one of the resident TDS victims!
hey TWB, how ya' been?
rest assured I'm not deranged, and of course this 'TDS' meme cuts both ways ... perhaps in your rush to post shade on RV817 you lost sight of the larger picture ... wait, you're sulking over the Big Sky thread, that's it!
CFL's odd Putin obsession and your bona fides as a die hard 45 apologist aside, you don't think Assange was wrong to publish the traitor Bradley Manning's stolen classified army intelligence briefs in an internet info dump? well I do
you know, that bastard went up on 22 charges and plead guilty right? he could have rcvd the death penalty for aiding the enemy! you're all good with his betrayal of country & the oaths he took to serve?
just where do you stand ... ? answer quick before the thread goes *poof*
So. . . to get serious for a minute. . . Manning (together with Assange) exposes WAR CRIMES and you call him a bastard and want the death penalty to apply? While the actual bastards who COMMITTED the war crimes roam scot-free? Man, you are one messed up dude!
I said nothing about any preferences for punishment ... if he could have afforded himself of 'whistleblower' protections he probably would have but he plead 'guilty' ... to the majority of sentient human beings that means he was, in fact, guilty as charged ... as info, I do not believe in the death sentence
what WAR CRIMES are you talking about? the most reliable sources report 'collateral damage' in the strike made under the Bush2 era command and there was zero evidence produced under the Obama era command
both involved air strikes and there was no evidence of civilian targeting in either incident ... I am anti-war and US foreign military operations in the region but you clearly have no idea what you're talking about
your opinion of me being 'messed up' is a 'consider the source' moment because as I've stated, your mind set impairs your judgement, since you can't help it I don't have any resentment about it
it is unfortunate though
"what WAR CRIMES are you talking about?"
What do you call the video below? Is it "collateral damage"? (BTW, I love your use of that Orwellian term. And since the video depicts the brutal war crimes brought to light by Wikileaks, it's restricted, but I've put in the link below too.)
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And you say you're "anti-war and US foreign military operations in the region"? You could have fooled me.
So, tell me again, whose mind impairs whose judgement?
someone's fooled you CFL but it isn't me, that's not in my repertoire here
the footage you present is horrific and I personally believe that war itself is a crime against humanity but in order for military activities to be crimes they have to meet certain criteria. what you've chosen to expound on simply fails the test ... you do know that there were other players involved in the infamous 'wiki-leaks dumps' that weren't charged with criminal activity correct? no ... you obviously don't ... maybe you should look into that and figure out why
that way you can make principled judgments and statements on these matters instead of parroting the anti-American spin and propaganda deployed by those who are either avowed or sub-rosa enemies of the country you live in
there's no need for me to repeat myself about impaired judgement or 'win' any 'exchange' here so I'll just step away and let this subject drop. of course your eristic obsessive compulsive tendency won't let you, but I can
it's a really unfortunate though not unforeseen development. I do feel bad about it on many levels except for the consequential. you even forced some half-assed punctuation out of me. it's too bad that your mind-set = a set mind
And I thought you were doing so well at one time!
"you do know that there were other players involved in the infamous 'wiki-leaks dumps' that weren't charged with criminal activity correct? no ... you obviously don't ... maybe you should look into that and figure out why"
If all you can do is make allusions to some kind of "knowledge" which you suppose I don't possess, I hope you can see how that would look somewhat. . . uh. . . weak on your part.
"instead of parroting the anti-American spin and propaganda deployed by those who are either avowed or sub-rosa enemies of the country you live in"
Yes - always looking for enemies, aren't we. Our MIC is so much better off that way. Again, you deal only in allusions (and illusions for that matter!).
"there's no need for me to repeat myself about impaired judgement or 'win' any 'exchange' here so I'll just step away and let this subject drop. of course your eristic obsessive compulsive tendency won't let you, but I can"
But repeating yourself is all you've done so far. I'm the one who has presented actual evidence (e.g., the video in my previous post). Nevertheless, that's mighty fine of you to let the subject drop - tip of the hat!
And anyone who disagrees is entitled to push back vigorously against the idea of a military takeover to "re-do" an election. That's a horrible idea that was rightly rejected and relegated to the discourse trash heap. It's a great example of free speech as a tool in the search for truth and the best ideas. Someone spouts lies or bad ideas, the audience rejects them and then we move on. Of course sometimes accountability for lies is necessary before we can move on as we're witnessing now in Congress.
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