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In Reply to: RE: Medicare is... posted by Victor Khomenko on February 12, 2021 at 12:00:55
Then the model that works better is the Single Payer system in Canada and not the USSR or a badly run system heavily weakened by the GOP over the years turning Medicare to crap. It needs to be properly run. But that is a separate issue.
In Canada - the government doesn't run hospitals. The government merely pays the bills. You go to your doctor you need an operation - the doctor and you decide what you need - the doctor does the operation and prescribes the pills and sends the bill to the government.
The doctor in the US wants to put you on X drug but has to phone up an HMO and the HMO says - our plan doesn't cover X it covers a pill that is "almost the same" in Y - so the doctor is now prescribing pills based on what the HMO and your coverage will allow.
The US healthcare system ranks at the very bottom of all industrialized nations in most metrics - so private hospitals and you pay for it all isn't working - you actually pay MORE to get less. This doesn't mean Canada is anywhere near perfect - it's got problems - wait times on non-urgent elective surgery is long because there simply aren't enough people in the medical field to do the elective operations. However, we do have private clinics so if you don't want to wait for an MRI on your knee you can pay for that instead of waiting in line.
I get it you are uber rich guy so your perspective is different than the bottom 99% but if you are at all capable try to pretend you are in the middle of the middle class. Pretend that the majority is more important than the one.
Some good points here.
RGA your post is presumptuous despite making some good points
it posits what someone's financial position is that you can't possibly know then beats up a straw man
no personal offense or snipe is intended I just hate to see good points get lost in a scrum
The "I got mine so screw you" mentality tends to emanate from one financial class of person. While some in the middle and lower financial class have been duped to vote against their own self-interests the majority have not.
And these things are not based on singular posts but across months and years of posts with various patterns.
Please understand something - my posts to certain posters here are not to try and convince them or to change their minds. Teaching old dogs new tricks is like convincing people to get out from under the thumb of religion. For me, it's more about that game at the old arcades called "Whack-a-Mole" (photo above).
Arguments of reason don't work so it's just whack-a-mole. People here only preach to their choirs. As I have traveled and lived in several different countries my perspective is different than some others who don't get out much and see the world first hand.
The things we are taught in school are often BS to keep us in check. America has just proven the statement "No one is above the Law" is complete and utter bullshit. "Violence doesn't solve problems" when in reality it is the only thing that usually does. Flower Power wasn't taking down the Nazis. Americans must agree because the US Industrial complex is where most of the taxes are going. No one stops to think that you should have a country worth defending before you spend all your money to defend it.
It's more about being frustrated at seeing the obvious potential and a relatively easy fix but the guy you brought in to fix the Rolex only has one tool - a sledgehammer. Nuance isn't in their mindset.
Frustration River Valley. Plus too much time on my hands with Covid I suspect. Granted this is mostly an American board so it's just that I see things from a different perspective - something that is obvious to me is not seen as obvious to some posters on this board. So it's kind of baffling to me.
But hey - have a laugh - Canada sure ain't perfect either :)
'Frustration River Valley'
by golly, there's an Americana song title right there!
thanks for the reply & trust that I understood your POV before reading it
there's not much nuance in dismissal though some ideas deserve it out of hand
it's difficult to peer behind what's said for why it's said
which is why one should never assume it's been seen & stop looking
sounds like a self help ditty from pop-sci but I've found it to be true
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