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In Reply to: RE: A different one here posted by Victor Khomenko on October 12, 2021 at 08:05:29
interesting concept for a war film. I suspect the process of the German people being conditioned to the Nazi movement was a slow but continual process. We probably need to go back before WWI to see it unfold.
Same with the Russian people going from Lenin to Stalin would be my guess.
There is no daylight between the Nazi and the communists, both spilled rivers of blood. Both had incredibly brutal methods... just different technologically... due to, mainly, the Russia's technological backwardness, so they had to rely on manual methods.
Crap like that Come and See serve two purposes. One, of course, is boosting the local militaristic and nationalistic hysteria. And it does so well. The commies have been milking the war theme forever, and are not going to stop. Their other leg - cosmos - is gradually dying.
The second purpose is in recruiting the Western willing idiots. By promoting the evil of the Nazi they are trying to white wash their own crimes. As we see times and again, that one is also working well.
Watching that crap you will never get even the slightest idea that the soviets were just as guilty of the events depicted in the film. That part of the truth is too uncomfortable, and it is kept out.
It is known, that the history is written by the victors... and in this case we have a "victor" that is every bit as bloody, ruthless and inhumane, who... for a number of purely political considerations, is given the right to write the history. This is disgusting.
It makes me wonder - if Germany won in WW2... what would its war films look like?
Just take that piece of crap and change the uniforms?
"A Woman in Berlin" gives you some sense of what it might look like.
Israel and its continuing treatment of the Palestinians comes, obviously, to mind. Note all the Holocaust propaganda films churned out by Israel-funded (quietly) producers every single year, yet not ONE film made in Israel or by Israelis questioning the lethal apartheid that's been going on for decades in the former Palestinian territories.
Less serious and hopefully inoffensive take: If a filmmaker wants to show despicable, deviant and atrocious human behavior on film, have a Nazi do it. Who's gonna say a Nazi would never do that? The "Nazisploitation" subgenre is a strange one.
But, The Damned, which has a new Criterion release, and Salon Kitty introduced one of my favorite actor/screen names of all time - Helmut Berger (ugly American pronunciation, of course. I'll have mine wit cheese.)
perfect fit for those roles, agreed!
when I open my greasy spoon cinema-themed diner, i'm gonna serve Helmut Burgers and Jon Phillip Slaw Dogs
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